Its all Linux !!

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux-
- That's the problem, though: a lot of it isn't GNU, specifically because GNU stuff is GPLv3 and would thus stop the smart TV and IoT device makers from Tivoizing everything all to Hell. Most of that stuff is running bastardized Linux, not GNU/Linux!
  
  Sacrilinux - or as I've recently taken to calling it, sacrilege + Lin.....
- There are a number of Linux distributions that do not have a GNU user space, so no.
  
  Can you name some?
- Thank you Mr. Stallman!
- A name is just a simple reference to a system composed of interrelated and essential OS components: Kernel, windowing system, networking tools, virtual memory, user interfaces, the list goes on…
  Yes GNU is an essential suite of tools but so is X (or Wayland) and many other unnamed yet critical subsystems.
  Now GPL licensing on the other hand, THAT is a foundational precept to FOSS that deserves sole credit back to a single project.
- Embedded Linux and Android are not GNU Linuxes.
- The only one of those that consistently runs GNU/Linux is supercomputers,
  
  All my servers run on Debian
- 🤣
- Do you correct everyone who says Windows instead of Microsoft Windows NT?
  
  woosh
  
  The NT kernel in isolation is apparently quite "ok", from what i have heard of it. It's the spyware, malware, driver crap ("windows") running on/using it which is unquestionably totally fucked and disgusting. If they were to FOSS the NT kernel, I could maybe support an such endeavor.

I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don't know how to use Linux. He said "Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore."
Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he's been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he's using are running Linux on the backend.
- Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.
  
  I think macOS is actually Unix certified. It at least was at one point.
- then what did he say after that?

Ha, imagine an alternate universe where crowdstrike took down people's refrigerators.
- That’s how we save Pied Piper.
  https://youtu.be/BnKpNVHw-TQ
- That would be so funny 😂
- A chilling thought.
- Please don't jinx that. I really don't want my fridge to stop working because of crowdstrike
  
  Let's face it: if you have a refrigerator that is connected to the Internet, you probably deserve it. :P
   
  ^Disclaimer: ^Obviously ^not ^of ^course. ^I'm ^just ^making ^a ^joke ^because ^IoT ^kitchen ^appliances ^are ^stupid.)
- It happened to a bunch of Linux servers a couple months back but nobody cared and so Crowdstrike didn't change anything so it happened again.

Nobody uses Linux guys, that shits for nerds
- True. I use arch btw
  
  Lol nerd
  
  Woah, you are old. I use nixos btw

Actually it's all Java
- Oracle wishes. We’re smarter than that.
  
  Sun shines. No, other Sun.
  
  Writing in scala doesn't make you smart

Lots of routers are BSD.
- Yep.
  I came here to make a 'my router uses BSD btw' joke.
  PfSense!
  
  Opnsense
- Fair point....

I got in trouble in a discussion about the most popular Linux distro when I said it's obviously Android.
- Jim: “what’s your favorite district” Mike: “Android of course” Jim:
  
  LOL Favourite? Jury is out. Most popular? Android all the way.
- Thats like saying your favorite type of cheese is American, sure its technically cheese but its so processed and removed from cheese that its just not the same as mozzarella.
  
  I made grilled cheese for my father in law in India where it was not insignificantly difficult to find "American" bread and processed cheese. It's comfort food that crosses borders and cultures.
  Edit: You United Statesians got that weird cheese thing right and I will die on that hill.

I am constantly amused about how "next year" has been "the year of Linux on the desktop" for 20+ years. Meanwhile, Linux & BSD have pretty much completely taken over the whole world except the desktop in that same time.
- You want Microsoft to go out of business, you monster?
  
  Yes

Routers often run on BSD
- Wish they didn't. DIY opnsense/pfsense boxes are much harder for finding compatible NICs because they're on BSD. Conversely, used enterprise-level NICs often have better drivers on Linux than Windows.
  
  usually if it doesn't have good working drivers on BSD, there's a good reason and it's probably better that you didn't use that hardware in the first place. if it was a well-established, reliable adapter then typically it would already have a driver.

Huh, I don't follow supercomputers very often. I didn't realize in the last 10 years UNIX dropped off the map of supercomputers entirely in favor of Linux.
Pretty cool.
- I worked in resales for super computers about 10 yrs ago. For x86 based designs we flogged red hat
  
  it's still mostly red hat even for arm, though Cray (who still supply a lot of machines here in the UK) ship a horribly butchered version of SLES

The ones that aren’t BSD-based, anyway, like for instance pfSense.
- Or MacOS, or the PlayStation OS.
  
  Netflix and whatsapp servers

And 4.5% of the desktops.
At this rate it should reach 25% of them by 2043.
- Actual desktops are going the way of the dodo for the mass market and Linux netbooks are quite popular. With Microsoft's current strategy of making a product that is worse and worse for low powered devices, I honestly think it'll happen sooner, except for businesses.