Chinese nuclear reactor is completely meltdown-proof
Chinese nuclear reactor is completely meltdown-proof
www.newscientist.com
Chinese nuclear reactor is completely meltdown-proof
"Waah Waah its expensive"
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I don't even know that it is expensive, it's just that nobody's building nuclear plants but China, which means if there's new tech in the field it's going to debut there.
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I miss
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slaps the side of the titanic
"This bad boy can handle SO MANY catastrophic failures. It's unsinkable!"-
alternate history comedy movie where the Titanic faces more and more ludicrous disasters on it's journey, finally arriving in New York looking like an absolute wreck but still floating
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Real reason of sinking was that moonshine apparature exploded in cargo hold but they weren't insured from this, so they lied about it.
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This is interesting. So the method is to replace the rods with these graphite pebble beds and they dissipate heat differently? And that heat transfers into the air and away faster than the potential maximum heat output even under emergency?
Everyone has a good idea of what the rod reactors look like these days, how do these pebble reactors look? I assume we'll start seeing them in movies at some point when they become more common.
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The Wikipedia page has a decent graphic. Instead of dropping graphite rods between the fuel rods, the fuel is a pellet permanently encased in a tennis ball sized coating of ceramic silicon carbide. The core is a funnel that pellets are continuously fed through, with an inert gas cooling the funnel and transferring the heat to the water for generating electricity.
I'm calling it a radioactive pachinko machine
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But at what cost?
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The anti nuke chuds btfo
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China's never had a contamination issue. Truly on the bleeding edge
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It might be a little cheaper now, since you no longer need emergency diesel generators.
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i would also say that , if its melts.. "false advertising" is the least of your problems
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I mean, they already had safe meltdown reactors when they made the molten salt reactor. You just put a meltable plug at the bottom of the reactor and if it gets to hot it melts the plug and drains into a container. Thorium requires a specific setup to fission, so this stops all reaction.
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I don’t think it’s truly proof, but it can handle some known issues better.
But also does it now introduce NEW complex problems?
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I'm all for it as an idea, but "meltdown-proof" really makes me think of "unsinkable". It's quite a hubristic description just begging to be proven wrong.
I mean if you drove the titanic through an iceberg and it was fine, I'd say you'd have a iceberg-proof ship, since you've literally proved it against an iceberg.
They proved that this power plant doesn't melt down when its cooling power supply is removed
If it was fine once then it'll always be fine, aka Garry Hoy's Law, never fails!
I'm sure the Titanic was also unsinkable for a regular breach.
Now what happens if somebody drops a bomb on the plant
touche´
This is just foolish reasoning, everything is immune to failure until it isn't.
Basically every major accident in history (including Chernobyl) happened because of circumstances that were either not imagined or deemed so unlikely they'd never happen. Effectively calling your thing failure-proof is just stupid.
The subheading seems like a better description.
One of the risks is the fuel getting jammed. Since they're spheres, they should have very low friction. But they already saw that defects in the coating can raise that risk. They would need very strict QC on manufacturing the pellets, and the entire system must be designed to mitigate the chance of wear causing damage. There would naturally be a buildup of debris over time, but fine carbon dust usually serves as a lubricant anyway. They would need to prevent contaminants entering the core.
Even if there was a jam, is there a foolproof way to stop the input, even during a power failure? Can the pellets sit in the reactor forever without getting too hot when the cooling is down?
Is any of this human controlled? Part of Chernobyl was someone ignoring a failure and choosing not to shut down until it was too late - is that a possibility here?
So yeah, saying failure is impossible is literally what they said with the Chernobyl-style reactors when they were new. They did safety tests on those to see what would happen if the power failed, which was itself the catalyst for the failure. Just say that you have a new, extremely safe design, be open about how it works, and don't tempt fate?