'We're close to the end': Biden world braces for the possibility that the president steps aside
'We're close to the end': Biden world braces for the possibility that the president steps aside
Once again, it offered a sharp contrast with former President Donald Trump, who, even after his brush with death on Saturday, will appear at a raucous coronation at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee on Thursday night.
Lick boots harder, you complicit oligarch fucks.
It's fucking gross. It has never been more clear than the past few weeks just how much these media corporations mold the narrative into what they believe will lead to the most engagement, consequences be damned. After all, what's the US government gonna do, fine then $10,000? Oh no.
One poor debate performance, and thanks to the feedback loop of the media, half the country is ready to give up the incumbent advantage and replace him at the last minute with someone who has no name recognition. Meanwhile, the other guy is not only incapable of forming a full, coherent statement without a teleprompter, he's literally told us he plans to be a dictator.
Kyle Gass gets black listed for a joke about the attempt. Meanwhile, we have companies selling life-sized decals of Biden hog-tied to put on your F-350.
And now they're complicit in this whole "Trump is calling for unity" bullshit, and reporting that he has nothing to do with Project 2025 as if there was any truth to that whatsoever.
The Trump campaign is doing everything they can to distance themselves from their own stated policy goals because they know how unpopular those goals are. And the media is reporting it as fact.
I'm so sick of the double standard. These people have been spewing violent, racist, homophobic, transphobic, genocidal rhetoric for over a decade.
But someone on the left makes a harmless joke and the media dog piles despite it being absurd. But gotta get that engagement at any cost.
What the actual fuck is that quote. Deer lord.
All hail the deer lord!
fuck man. did they leave him up this long just so we automatically vote for whoever they put up next out of sheer desperation
That definitely sounds like exactly the kind of guaranteed-to-backfire strategy the Democratic part loves!
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is a time-honored Democrat tradition.
They want to do a sequel to the 2016 election it seems like.
Left him there to take a few billion dollars of attack ads his replacement can ignore.
Yes
Biden world? I want off Mr bidens wild ride.
Worst theme park ever
I really hope Harris can beat Trump.
As much as I hate it, I think there too much subconscious misogyny to try it. It's a recipe for failure.
And racism. Can't forget the racism!
Aren't all of the misogynists already voting for Trump? I think just being a younger woman candidate could energize the younger voting base.
All the right wingers who wanted Trump are going to vote for him and all the Republicans that wanted someone else rallied behind a woman during their primaries. I think people are blowing up an issue thats less impactful than they make it out to be.
I'm sure there's plenty of misogyny and racism to put people off, but don't underestimate "being another bland candidate who won't get people excited enough to vote".
It wasn't just women haters that made Trump beat Clinton.
People's lives are shit, and while Trump will for sure make them even shittier, "things will be mostly the same as they are now, with some baby steps towards things you've wanted for decades" isn't exactly a rallying cry for the ages.
The Democrats were never going to let Sanders have anything, but AOC? Maybe? She at least makes the news when she says things. And unlike Republicans, they're not horrible things.
Probably not, she's got the charisma of Hillary, and two strikes (race and gender) against her. But Biden is dragging the rest of the party down with him. With Harris we probably get a Trump presidency (we have at least a fighting chance to avoid it). But with Biden we get a Trump presidency, a landslide election giving him a "mandate" and assuredly a Republican House and Senate to go along with it. Sooo worth a shot with the old switcharoo I guess.
She can’t.
Whitmer maybe could. If she has a strong running mate.
Harris just isnt a good candidate.
Oh no you don’t. We’ve got Whitmer until the end of 2026. You can have her then and not a second sooner.
If SCOTUS keeps on this retro “states rights” bender, we’re just gonna make our own country. With blackjack. And great lakes.
The only thing Whitmer is good at is destroying state economies, and killing small businesses.
If it's on NBC, it's likely to happen this weekend.
Yeah there's no going back from talk like this.
Anyone's allowed to talk, and media companies talk about whatever people will click on.
I think it happens today and it makes the weekend not be about the republican convention.
Probably right. Strategically, it makes the most sense... But the DNC lacks that attribute.
Please, not another octigenarian
Totally agree. There's no reason we can't find someone a little older even still.
Jimmy Carter is still alive.
Exhuming Dianne Feinstein and putting her on the ticket.
There is Bernie and Nancy and they are both fired up :D
Is part of the reason for a big drop off in "big donor money" because of Biden's (sudden) age?
Or are the wealthy just accepting that Trump will make them way wealthier than they already are at the trivial cost of democracy that would only affect the poors anyhow?
Seems like democracy in America is already snuffed out and the wealthy rats are happily trying to get the last good spots on the dictator-ship
I'm holding out hope for Mark Kelly
DNC Komissars can't even name the replacement so this is Kamala driven campaign?
It's a trap so the GQP can force ballot shenanigans
Yeah, the GOP made Biden old and confused, lol
Oh wow, is this a totally new thing? Is Biden just suddenly old or was he always going to be this age when fucking time moved on. But hey doesn't seem to stop Trump
This whole thing is so fucking stupid. If the Democrats wanted a legitimate candidate they should have thought of that way before but instead they fucked it up. Now by trying to replace Biden. They're going to fuck it up even more. But hey he's old I mean come on better let the fascists win
Plan would be simple. Resign from the Presidency for health and personal reasons. This would immediately promote Harris to the Presidency, who could inherit the campaign cash and pledged delegates, and begin to sharply campaign on continuing the Biden legacy and attacking Trump with every skill at her disposal.
Wouldn't be perfect, but it'd avoid a big, chaotic, inter-party fight with no prep time, and would preserve the sense of incumbency. Harris could even pick an actual progressive as her running mate, maybe a Katie Porter, and help shore up some support on that flank as she fights for the moderates.
Not a great nor necessary plan.
There's no way for Harris to appoint and get confirmed a replacement vice president, and it would be impossible anyway because replacing the vacant VP slot requires a majority of both the House and Senate.
Becoming President in this case is by the Constitution. It's the law, it's how our government works.
Becoming the nominee is internal political party, legally private non-governmental business.
What does work, whether or not one wants Harris as the new nominee, is this:
Biden drops out as the Democratic nominee for President, while remaining in office as President saying he must put all his energy and attention into governing these remaining months.
Then,
IF the party wants Harris. Harris aggressively campaigns to be President ELSE
Harris states she has to put all her energy and attention into helping Biden govern so will not accept a nomination.
Open convention occurs, but likely with a lot of prior discussion and alignment towards one or two best candidate.
Face saving all around
That happens if Biden slips and falls in the bath tube, too. Its not an argument for keeping him at the top of the ticket.
Dems control the Senate. For the House, would just need a couple repubs to flip. Otherwise it would have to be left vacant I suppose. Mike Johnson being next in line does not worry me.
Correct, Harris would not automatically become the dem nominee. However, assuming Biden's chosen delegates are loyal to him, I think it's reasonable to guess they would honor his chosen successor and voluntarily vote according to his wishes.
A convention is a possibility, and I'm not completely against it. It complicates matters severely though, and not for very significant gain since citizens can't really vote again in such a short timeframe.
Most people really don't like Harris though. Keeping Biden is the better option at this point... The Dems have just royally fucked everyone by playing this "emperor's new clothes" game with Bidens dementia.
Yeah, she's far from perfect. But, it's better than a big, chaotic, unprecedented free-for-all. Everyone was expecting 4 more years of this administration anyway.
Tbh, I think that Harris is a big ol nothingburger of a candidate. Fox news got conservatives to hate her easy enough for the crime of being a [black, woman] Democrat, but that doesn't mean anything to independents. Harris is disappointing to more libertarian minded and further left folks (like me) because she was kind of a stupidly aggressive DA, but I don't think that really bothers independents either. Harris herself had a middling debate performance in 2020, but still managed to beat the pants off Biden, who appeared DOA on the 2020 primary stage. She's never espoused any especially strong policy positions that I know of, either, besides being another authoritarian centrist.
All of this kind of wraps up into a very boring, plain vanilla candidate, which could well work to the democrats' advantage in this election cycle. Here's my opinion: Harris has several key advantages over Biden.
I really wish the democrats had had the foresight to prepare for this moment by picking a much better VP, or having an open and honest primary, but we're here now and there's nothing we can do about the past. Imo, Harris is the best chance we've got of keeping the fascists out for the next four years.
If Biden could prove the debate was a one off he would have done so. His continued lack luster perform after the debate shows what the road to November looks like with him. Dems lose. Because most people who would vote blue will do so anyway. It's the 1 in 100 on the margins that will decide this thing. If Biden nominee = Trump 2nd presidency = all of the terror that comes with it, then who gives a flying fuck if Kamala right now polls even with Biden.
Most people don't like Biden. More than don't like Harris. There was some early idea that Harris was uniquely disliked that people keep propagating for some reason. She's not a superstar, she lost the primary for a reason, but she's not some especially toxic politician. At least not for anyone who would say "keeping Biden is better".
I've counted and I can guarantee there are at least two dozen Americans that aren't Harris or Biden.
We can shore Biden up with a good Neuralink for the short term. Offload more and more functions to ChatGPT, but trained on someone articulate like Snoop Dogg.
With Biden’s political experience and Snoop’s ability to complete a sentence, we could keep this administration going. Let him google stuff too, in real time. Then he’s got an excuse for zoning out.
Most people really don't like Biden either.
I could see a video getting leaked of Jill Biden slapping Joe around saying he ruined her life cause of the debate
Not my fave plan but it’ll do. Shit, I’m voting D no matter what. I will always vote against the republican traitor filth.
Not my fave plan but it’ll do. Shit, I’m voting R no matter what. I will always vote against the democrat traitor filth.
Who would be Harris’ VP pick?
She'd probably pick a straight white guy to try to defuse some bigotry concerns, but in my fantasies she picks Katie Porter.
She can’t beat Trump.
I don't think we need someone popular to beat Trump. Just someone that can run a strong campaign.
Trumps fans may love him, but he is not himself a broadly popular figure in any other circles.
Trump is not a good candidate, everyone the dems run is just horrible
So lie to voters more and say it is for health and personal reasons when he's been saying he's fine this whole time? What a final FU that's be and what a way to energize your base with another big lie. He should admit that he was wrong and has decided to step aside cause he thinks it's best for the voters and best for the party and best for the country. PERIOD. Nothing else needs to be said.
I don't think voters would blame a politician for trying to portray strength in their campaign. Sensible ones anyway.