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  • I wouldn't buy a car that could only drive on roads approved by the maker, so same goes for phone.

  • I don't like Apples attitude. And I want control of my own phone, not just whatever crumbs Apple will allow me.

  • Apple's walled garden is anti-consumer, anti-developer, and pretty much anti-everyone-but-apple.

    It just doesn't make sense to me to use or develop for Apple under those conditions.

  • Why would I pay more than 3 times more for a Brick, that gives me less freedom to do what I want and doesn't have app support and features I require.

  • Much like many of the iPhone users when you asked the converse question, it's not so much that something is stopping me, but that I have no interest in it. I don't see any benefits that I care about, and it would cost time and money to switch.

    Let's pretend for a moment that I did have some desire to switch, perhaps due to some new hardware from Apple or changes to Android I found unpalatable. Here are some things I'd consider major barriers:

    • Sideloading - I want to install stuff without permission from the hardware or OS vendor. Maybe I'll even write a niche app without asking permission.
    • Administrative access - I have root on my Android phone, and I didn't have to fight it to gain root (I know that's not true of every device). If I don't have root or can't get it easily, it's not really mine.

    That's... basically it, but those are big things and Apple's position on them is so opposite mine that they're risking severe sanctions from the EU to comply with the EU's sideloading regulations in the most useless way they can.

  • I've owned apple devices in the past. The thing I hate most is the ecosystem, it's so limited and simple to the point of frustration. They are missing basic features and customization options. Apple has the worst settings menu of any device I've ever used. If that wasn't bad enough the devices are incredibly over priced.

    • Actually being the owner of my phone. Apple decides everything for their users and allows them little freedom. I want to be able to put random apps on my phone, including maybe even my own.
    • Price. Shit's expensive. I now got a Pixel 8 for less than 500 euro's. Before that I had phones around the 300 euro price range.
    • Their ecosystem. They try to lure you into an everything Apple ecosystem. Stuff like iMessage is horrible for consumers. With an Android phone I have choice of apps, smart watch, earbuds, etc. Apple will always try to force you into buying their fancy but expensive things.
    • No benefit, there's plenty of cool Android phones.

    Etc etc.

    • Can't have the wifi and hotspot on and the same time
    • Can't record calls
    • Can't make homepage icons small
    • Can't remove the default keyboard
    • Worse apps

  • Surely the other way around ?

    But why ?

    • Lack of choice
    • Lack of stylus
    • Lack of app stores and side loading
    • Lack of customisaistion
    • Shitty Apple policies

  • Plenty of useful apps that cannot run on iOS. Mostly Termux and SDR-related apps (rtl_tcp server, SDR++, SatDump, Welle.io, SDRAngel, Dump1090,...)

    I can run full-on desktop in Termux and access it via VNC server. I can also access it via SSH server. I can run a web server, HTTP proxy server, Kiwix server, Navidrome server, Jellyfin server, port-forward using socat. And that's just what I use or tried. In the past there was someone on Reddit running a public BBS server on an Android phone in Termux.

    There's likely many other apps I use not available on iOS.

    So if I'll be switching to a different platform, maybe PinePhone running Arch Linux with Plasma mobile? Probably only as a secondary phone for now though.

    iPhones are too close to feature phones for me. Best thing they can run is probably a browser.

  • The question is framed such that it implies an iPhone to be the better choice. Most people don't even consider switching to iPhone because it typically is a lot of effort for the average person who already has an Android. IOS has worse app support, it is more restrictive, with fewer features than Android typically has. Many people stick with what they have because it is what they are used to.

    I personally don't use an iPhone because I use root and terminal tools often which aren't available on iOS and also don't want that Apple spyware in my life.

  • no interest

    on my android, I can install any os I want, install apps from anywhere, not just the app store

    android gives me more options with hardware, from 200 to 2000 dollars

  • I have tried Apple products before (2 iPods as gifts). All the good memories I have are from pirating them, the bad ones are from the base operation of the products. An Apple product on its own is a terrible experience. Only together with other products of the same brand is it worth it. But to achieve that you have to pawn your whole life and almost join a cult.

    Besides, I'm not willing to pay a crazy amount of money for a device that does what my current phone already does but better (for my needs).

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