did you guys know we are right wing pretending to be left wing?
did you guys know we are right wing pretending to be left wing?
I would be real disappointed if that was true
Also, why are pronouns bad when we do it?
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"Did you know that if you don't throw your trans comrades under the bus to appease chasers and ableists that it totally means you're actually just using them as a shield bro, just trust us bro"
Every accusation a confession.
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"JohnBrownWasRight"? Sounds like something a republican would say in an alternate history where the Southern Strategy didn't lead to a reversal in Republican and Democrat's positions on race in the 60s. Clearly the Mandala Effect is at work here! No more sand painting until we get this under control!
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"Ok guys I just got this great idea for how we can troll the left, it's really funny I promise, what if we like, what if we all like, set up a community where we pretend to be commies, and also a bunch of us were like, trans and gay and stuff? No no like hear me out we would like ban anyone who says slurs or questions the validity of trans people in any way, lol. Like, what if we designed a bunch of custom emojis with the trans flag and made everyone display pronouns next to the name to make sure nobody gets misgendered? That'd be so funny lol. But we HAVE to make sure nobody catches on, so we should just like, keep the bit to ourselves for a couple years, we'd have to like, spend a couple years hanging out in that kinda space with just us until we can perfect the bit. Ok so who's down?"
Seriously, have these people met chuds before? I'd be impressed to see one that could keep the mask on for like a day.
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Don't forget having fucking reading groups and forums for learning about leftist theory and history and having many users on hand who can discuss Marxist, etc. works with a great deal of familiarity, often readily including citations and encouraging people to do their own reading.
This is some "Judeo-Bolshevism" level shit
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Would you be able to recommend some threads/comms that discuss theory and history? I'm new to hexbear and want to read up.
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This sounds kinda gay, I'm in
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Incredible bit idea though, getting a bunch of
on estrogen for 3 years learning about queer theory to stick it to the libs-
Trying to figure out if I can use this irl, like, "No, see, I'm only transitioning to act as a deep cover operative so I can find and expose the grooming rings, can I count on your cooperation in keeping up my disguise by calling me by a different name and pronouns?"
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Also I spend too much time here I started spelling "bullshit" B-O-L-S-H from transcribing my inner monologue.
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Hi I'm pansexual and agender and I've been a Hexbeat user since day one and I say that Hexbear is the single beat LGBT community I've ever been in
Oh no, I'm being shot! Those dastardly cishets must be using me as a shield! Oh wait no they're not, it's just liberals being bigoted and blaming it on the left
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Also I think Hexbear has the highest proportion of queer users for any website that isn't explicitly focused on queer people. Gay porn sites probably have more straight people than we do
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Pronouns in usernames is WHY I decided to stay on hexbear instead of jumping from instance to instance with the great reddit exodus of '23.
I'm still learning to interact with y'all, but I appreciate how tight knit the community is and how y'all interact with each other.
On that though, I genuinely can't see how people'd think this is a right wing instance pretending to be left wing, it's like they haven't even looked at the instance beyond a cursory glance
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Guess I am a shield and not an human being.
Do liberals really
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Wait we have cishet people here?
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I happen to know a few people who are "most likely straight" or "probably cis" or both, just give them time
jk ... unless?
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flamboyantly aro cishet
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that's real as fuck thank you for joining us
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There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
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Uhh, definitely not
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My 'Not a cishet informant' t-shirt has a lot of people asking questions already answered by the shirt.
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I am the token cishet required to receive our funding from Soros, Xi, and Putin. Nice to meet you!
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This is an aggressively LGBTQ+ space and if you're cishet and you're still with us you're unironically one of the good ones™
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Cheers I appreciate that
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Eh? I think being one of the good ones requires a certain proactivity that isnt really proved by being here, but I agree with the sentiment.
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I'm not a shield. I'm the got damned bear eating your face.
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We are the right wing? Does this mean we can get corporate funding and unlimited access to the mainstream media?
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I can't wait for my first wingnut welfare check 🤑
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shit, I forgot to give the Heritage Foundation my direct deposit details
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So people here are right wingers pretending to be trans and left wing. In order to keep up the charade, we suppress our deeply held right wing urges to hate gay people by banning all homophobia, mandating pronouns, and having explicitly pro-trans comms. And we've done all of this completely isolated for years.
And we have executed this plot in order to....?
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If they had the words they could critique us for our non consistent attitude in regards to anti imperialism vs progressivism in terms of liberalism etc. and a couple other things (which is in part a result of our diversity and left unity and in parts of other things).
However even if they had the words a vast majority would still use ill fitting attacks.
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Trick the Good Liberals on the Internet and make them doubt the purity of their faith
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Right wingers would have made the attack helicopter joke more often in a three year long bit
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And we have executed this plot in order to....?
Do a little trolling
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i was browsing blahaj to see what the aftermath of defederation was like. reading the thread this came from made me so angry i had to just stop
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Wait thinking Johns are gross is being detached from reality now? Really? Have any of these people actually talked to anyone in real life? Even fucking dudebros hate on Johns and call them simps lmao. Like I'm telling you, you're not going to find much support for this in the real world. There's a reason men don't solicit sex workers in public and tell their wives about it.
There's a reason sex work models in some countries make "selling" legal but "buying" illegal. It's a real thing in the real world.
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Didn't we just have an anti-SWERF struggle session a couple months ago? I thought the consensus was that sex has already been commodified and that sex work is no more "selling your body" than coal mining or any of a number of other jobs is, and that if you're taking particular offense to sex work you should seriously reconsider whether that energy is coming from a sexist slut-shaming puritanical place or truly from your leftist values.
I didn't take any particular stance on the issue because I'm neither sex worker, nor john, nor a woman. I guess I'm saying this partly to restate the strict anti-SWERF hexbear line, and partly to clarify my own understanding, not to attack you personally because I don't think you've said anything necessarily incompatible with this, but it could be taken that way.
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They picked probably the worst possible example to prove how disconnected we are. Shoulda gone with the rock stacking struggle sesh smh
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The first paragraph is very:
If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain.
Which has been a pet peeve of mine for a while. I think usually because they don't give any reasoning or explanation. It's just "you don't understand the world yet", then explain it to me!
I feel like the intent has to be just to dismiss young people's views as being out of touch, without offering anything better.
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I was a libertarian at 25 and i'm a communist at 40, their truism sucks and is wrong
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I was conservative at 10, libertarian at 12, social democrat at 15, anarchist at 25, and Marxist-Leninist at 30.
Why would I become more conservative when capital is making the world more shit every year of my life lol
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I'm an old
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I am old enough to remember the GDR in colour. With decades of political work and working mostly for our lower precarious third. Yet somehow I am a 20 year old who gets money from his parents(?) - I wish! Having a body that doesn't hurt would be amazing.
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Ah more vile shit about how AKCHTUALLY all those queer Hexbears aren't actually queer. Please keep invalidating my identity libs maybe eventually if you hate me enough I might want to join your hateful little shit club
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Is having had sex with three genders and not having had sex with another person who isn't interested in sex yesterday queer enough or do I need to dye my hair light blue?
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It's queer enough for sure
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10/10 there are people who believe we are patsocs doing trans-face.
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We are the LGBT members lol. Like around half of us are LGBT+
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Nah it's a decently large majority
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literally lying about everything, much like north korea social credit xi xinpingbuxX$$$$$$$++++ maomaomeow
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For a fun game go to blahaj.zone and search locally for any mention of
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"In fact, we carried, before we had a pride flag, we carried the North Vietnamese flag as our pride flag. Now you could hear that and think “well that’s interesting”, but it wasn’t just an abstract thing.
(And by the way, I know there’s some people who have to leave at, uh, for a nursing class here; nobody’s gonna look at you funny when you go. I know people are starting to get nervous about—don’t worry, you go with our grace.)
So, the Gay Liberation Front and the Third World Liberation Front named themselves in solidarity with the North Vietnamese people at a time when that was considered treason. That’s like now, coming out and defending the resistance of the Iraqi people, the Palestinian people, the North Korean people, the Iranian people, the Cuban people. We face getting beaten up on the streets for marching with the Vietnamese flag but we knew that if we didn’t defend the Vietnamese people we were gonna weaken, first of all the people who deserved our support because we were the aircraft carrier in which the war was being launched in all our names. We would lose the solidarity with the Vietnamese people and we would lose our own political souls and movement as well if we didn’t take a position in support.
We were supporters on the front lines of the women’s liberation movement even when there were some who didn’t want us to be there—who said ooh, if you could just get out of the way, because you know, we’re strong women and they’re calling us lesbians [be]cause you’re around. We’re like, excuse me, we’re withstanding the lesbian invading—you better get used to that. As strong women you better get used to saying “and yes, many of us are!” Because otherwise, you’ll just back yourself right off a cliff. And I would ask you, do we have an equal rights amendment today? It was not a winning strategy.
We were involved in all these struggles, but not because we said it’s gonna be a tit-for-tat: “I’ll do this if you’ll do that. I’ll come to your demo Wednesday if you come to mine Thursday.” We did it because we knew it was a fight we had to join and be a part of. And it strengthened all—"
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What does his edit mean? Does he want us to bully LGBT people because we're supposed to be right wing baddies in his mind?
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mfw people aren't being mean to lgbtq people
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Wait....Actually humanity, yes we are right-wing. We have the good ideology. We're not leftists we're just alt-libertarians. We have all the same biases and prejudices you do, so vote us in power and we will get you the special treatment you deserve, we promise.
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Hexbear, I'm told by insider sources, is Potemkin leftism - it's a grand performative conspiracy where the far-right congregate to LARP as leftists as a means of tricking good, honest liberals and as a means of indoctrinating naive, newly-minted leftists into deplorable acts such as "reading theory", denouncing Va*sh, and adopting a position of revolutionary defeatism which is inherently racist against People of NATO.
It's disgusting.
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Just like all their other bullshit. They claim we're right-wing, they claim we aren't LGBTQ+ accepting, they claim we support Putin, yet no matter how many times we ask, never once have they ever bothered to pony up any evidence to back up these wild accusations.
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The issue is that the liberals have figured out you don't need evidence. You just need more people to repeat a message often enough for it to become the accepted """truth""". It doesn't have to be the actual truth but you create it by making people believe it through repetition.
It's propaganda, and it works. Nobody is immune to it including us, but the more switched-off to propaganda that people are the more susceptible to it they are. And the vast majority of people are switched off to it.
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We're right wing because we support right wing governments like the USSR, duh
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I think since federation I've only seen a lemmy lib post a source once, and it was a link to wikipedia. They are allergic to providing proof/sources, whether it be a serious political discussion or petty federation drama. I saw a lemmy claim they received transphobic comments from a hexbear. A mod from here replied to them to provide the username so they can be banned. Of course the user "couldn't remember" the username (can't you just check your post history?).
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In regards to de federation I did half a dozen digs. In those dugs I found 5 people inventing things and one who was telling the truth somewhat correct, but since they didn't get the vibe they misinterpreted the meaning of it. After that I stopped and took up the concept of: "If someone did something to you then you better link it in the fediverse, else I think you are lying".
During the de federation of one instance I found a soldier who insulted for being an US narc. That guy claimed he got deaht threats for correcting people, not for him literally being in the war of aggression organization with genocide and collateral damage as a side dish.
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They're presumably much more used to people just believing the shit they say, and likewise they're more used to just going along with whatever they hear. Many of us are commies in deeply capitalistic countries and we're used to people not just going along with what we say, we're used to them not believing us, expecting sources, we're used to them trying to find any way they can to dismiss the sources we provide, and so on ...
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Sweetie you're not an ally to LGBTQ people unless you're a mask off scratched liberal who loves war.
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ur not an LGBTQ ally unless you want to arm nazis
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The A in LGBTQIA is for Azov
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I mean, you are. If it looks like a dog and barks like a dog...
Actual communists would be trying to get Democrats on their side; they need them if they're going to stand chance at holding office or gaining seats. What you guys are doing is driving away the people you need the most. Your behavior makes no sense for a communist. I mean for one, you literally never hate on right wingers. That alone tells me everything I need to know about this place.
The point I'm trying to make is that you're not fooling anyone, MAGAts.
Edit: How do I disable inbox replies? I really don't care to read what any of you idiots have to day. I don't listen to terrorists. Don't you guys have a courthouse to protest in front of? Go give your previous "god emperor" your attention instead and leave me alone.
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I mean for one, you literally never hate on right wingers.
The acceptable range of opinions on this instance regarding what should be done with right wingers ranges from the moderate position of "Force them into re-education camps" to "Force them into a pit and throw in dynamite."
I'm really not sure how we could possibly make this more clear.
BASH THE FASH -
this is such a good bit
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Please tell me this is satire.
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i mean this from the bottom of my heart:
lol
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lmao even
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So are you advising me as someone who isn't allowed to vote to vote? This is why Trump wins!
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Have not read any of the 10 million threads posted about the new chud anthem
- I'm a Maoist now, Jack!
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Democrats should be the ones trying to get communists on their side you absolute dipshit that's literally how political bargaining works. You're just a mad lib. Cope and seethe more
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Actual communists would be trying to get Democrats on their side
lmao
and what have democrats done for communists? Why shouldn't they get communists on their side?
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Actual communists would be trying to get Democrats on their side; they need them if they're going to stand chance at holding office or gaining seats. What you guys are doing is driving away the people you need the most. Your behavior makes no sense for a communist
I thought this was a joke at first, I'm serious. Not everybody on this site is from the US, but the democrats are a garbage party and do nothing for communists in the US either. Even if we had a one-party dictatorship of the democrats, they would simply re-create the two-party gridlock within their own party, as they have done numerous times in the past (Obama administration, Biden administration, various democratic strongholds such as California). They're increasingly not much of a party anyway, since they have no apparent means of forcing their own members to follow the party line.
I mean for one, you literally never hate on right wingers. That alone tells me everything I need to know about this place.
We literally do that all the time. You probably only found out about us after all this federation drama, during which we've been mostly making fun of all the goddamn liberals it's brought in, so that's why your perspective is skewed.
The point I'm trying to make is that you're not fooling anyone, MAGAts.
Motherfucker you are a fool.
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I kinda appreciate the bravery to post that here, but sadly I can't actually follow your path (to certain victory and to a new world), because I am not american, and so I can't get these Democrats (that are necessary to win) on my side.
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how tf are you not American. everyone on the internet is american
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gets larger "You are driving people away"
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Your behavior makes no sense for a communist. I mean for one, you literally never hate on right wingers
We definitely do, but we're mostly young and lgbt and from western countries, so hating conservative liberals and fash is second nature, and moderate libs like pretending they're the furthest left possible, so we can't help but remind them that no, they're still very right wing
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This is a bit, right? There's no way you ACTUALLY believe this, right? RIGHT?
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Actual communists would be trying to get Democrats on their side
You do understand that some people live in countries that are not the USA, right?
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