Finally a nice Twitter alternative..

"Instagram owner"
Have they paid the publication for this weird title? It's Meta. Are they so ashamed they believe calling it a Meta service would mean less users?
- Also, are we all going to pretend that Meta isn't just Facebook, the company that sold all our data to Cambridge Analytica for a quick buck, a company who then used that data to direct target right leaning moderate, pump them full of anxiety and fear, and turn them into Trump devotees? A company that then later didn't store that data properly and leaked it, allowing thousands of identities to be stolen (including mine)? Meta / Facebook / Instagram are not good actors on the internet and we should be doing more to sully their name
  
  Not saying that Facebook/Meta aren't terrible but this is a misunderstanding of what happened with Cambridge Analytica.
  Facebook didn't sell anything to Cambridge Analyitica. Their API at the time allowed CA to gather information about you and all of your friends when you took one of their free personality quizzes (during the era when 90% of Facebook was people sharing personality quizzes).
  When Facebook found out what CA had done, they fixed their API to prevent it from happening again (not because they cared about user privacy but because CA got a bunch of information from them that they could use to target advertisements on their own without paying FB to run ads) and covered it up so their users wouldn't know how massively negligent they had been with their data.
  So it's not that Facebook was wantonly selling you data to shady characters so much as they were carelessly leaking your data to any shady characters who happened by.
  
  Don't forget that the groups they targeted were as small as 10 people. Facebook is the reason our world is a shit as it is now. Fuck meta. Fuck Facebook. Fuck all of them. I despise them with deeper hatred than 99.99% of the things I have ever known
  
  Don't forget that they paid teens to (unbeknownst to them) install a vpn and collect all their data, including message content
  They also used a hacky mechanism bc they knew they were breaking the app store rules
  Facebook / Meta / the instagram owner is evil as fuck
  
  Well, we aren't. But if you mean "we" as in "humans". Then yes, we've already forgotten and we don't care anymore if you remind us. You're being a paranoid nerd, I don't get all this techy crap, and I'm sure Mark has learned his lesson or at the very least the government will do something.
- Well I guess this is because it is called "Threads, an Instagram app"
- Fewer users.
  And yes.
- No, they've already said it'll be connected to Instagram and allow you to push updates to your Instagram followers

Honestly, it's scary. For people that are unaware, there's an amazing resource on privacy-respecting alternatives to popular services and softwares: https://www.privacyguides.org. They are also on Lemmy if you have any question.

Mastodon is already pretty active, and is also part of the fediverse
- The unfortunate reality is that unlike us, most of the Twitter users could not care less about making choices, let alone privacy. Twitfaces can't calm down and talk without going ballistic and you think they'll willingly look into what federated social media is?
  
  Alot of them are moving though thanks to twitter repeatedly fucking up, I've been seeing some artists and such on mastodon recently that were only on twitter before.
  People just need to spread the word; there isn't a marketing campaign or anything for the fediverse after all.

Mastodon is the federated equivalent of twitter the same way lemmy can be considered the federated alternative of reddit. That's the nice Twitter alternative you are looking for.
- This is what I've been telling everyone. Don't go to threads, go to mastodon.
  
  This would be great but most people will not care and sacrifice data for convinence. Wish the government cared as much about us big tech as they did TikTok.
  
  Also calckey is pretty cool too
- Is there a way to see recent popular posts? That’s like the only thing missing for me.
  
  No, mastodon is for following people or specific communities… it is specifically NOT for listening to or speaking to the whole world.
  
  Ive been using wefwef since the loss of Apollo / reddit, it works pretty well and allows to sort posts or comments accordingly. If you want to see what’s going on right now you can go to your all feed and set it to the most recent posts. Also has a bunch of other sorting options. Like hot and active.

"Instagram owner" just say Meta lol
- We all know it's the Zucc, you don't gotta lie of omission to kick it.

you lost me at "Instagram"
- That's impossible, Instagram already knows your gps coordinates...

Why the first reaction frame? Instagram is owned by Meta, of course they're going to have incredibly invasive data collection policies.
- I expected some data collection but to be honest, have not expected as much (especially location etc., although this can be partly deactivated). But maybe I was too trusting in this case 😅

Facebook makes a product that squeezes every last drop from your privacy? Nooooooo waaaay!
- Ahem. They're called Meta.
  But seriously, fuck anything Zuckerberg owns.
  
  I don't care what they all themselves, they are always going to be Facebook.
  
  They gave up on the metaverse already so I don't think that name fits anymore.
  
  I would love to use it as a conduit to drag those I love out of the Facebook/Instagram microcosms.
  Adam Mosseri appears to be embracing the idea of Open Federation for Threads; https://www.threads.net/t/CuRtcYTNY3J
  “ If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”

This post is Meta.
On a serious note, can we appreciate Meta's marketing team for the timing of this announcement. They waited for Twitter to bleed to kick it in the shins.
- 🥁 ba-dum-tss

installs app
Declines everything
"To use the app You need to allow-"
Uninstalls app

Great, another Meta privacy brea... I mean service I can stay away from.
- No no, you were right the first time

Yeah.. Meta the owner of Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp wants to collect data from you? Shocker

Mastodon is a viable option, but then again, this app does some basic automatic account creation from existing FB data and follow people from it. This alone will impress some non-tech journalist and praise it. We have become too lazy to get out of the burning house and save our life.
I wonder if any of that break some GPDR or California Data laws.
- And people will join on there and it will have more success than better alternatives probably, at least for now. It's mindblowing how little people care/understand.
  And it's not even like Meta offers any good service, FB has been crap forever.
  
  I think most of the world has bought into the marketing lies of big tech, where they claim to be secure and private. Caring for their users. I was one of those people, until one day I asked a simple question, "what are these companies doing to actually protect me?" Nothing. rather I have made myself more vulnerable by being on a platform that uses my information at scale. They are doing everything to protect themselves from law suits and to keep racking in money over decades old dream of marketing based on large amount of personal data gathering. Ad money is drying up this year, high interest rate and all that. I wonder what impact that will have on these platforms.

This is so egregiously excessive that Threads can't launch in the EU (https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.html)

Is anyone really supprised?
- Not the fact they want to collect our data but it's the kind of data that's concerning.
  "Sensitive info". Does Zucky want to collect data about the size of our peepees?
  "Other data". Aka "literally whatever the fuck we want"
  
  They want to collect all sizes not just peepees!
  But tbh they are doing this on twitter... There is not really any big difference, the only difference being is that people complain about this now.

twitter alternative, is mastodon, everything else is companies trying to cache with fediverse

Looks to me that Zuck is trying to compete with Truth Social -- no way this garbage will be Federated.

At least we have all the fediverse micro-blogging section
And here!

Is this the alleged decentralized/federated Twitter app that Facebook has been working on?
- Yup, but it's not even integrated with ActivityPub yet
  
  I read that it wouldn't be federated to begin with. Which is weird, because then it's just another silo...

Just no.

Yeah I don’t get why they need all these permissions. Crazy
- Because they want it. It's the main reason why they've built the app.
- for targeted ads I guess

- Yep you're right, and they shut it down: https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/17/instagram-will-shut-down-its-companion-app-threads-by-year-end/

As of Twitter doesn't collect your data...

Even tho the meme is using "disappointed black guy", I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed actually.
It's meta, what else can someone expect from them?

My big hope from this is that people might learn more about federated content and the fediverse in general. Then they can move away from stuff meta makes into the actual private internet.
- I'm reeeeeal cautious about it. There's a Dr. Strange level of one positive ending, and that's where users log into FB's not twitter, discover a ton of content on mastadon and lemmy, subscribe, and then when they eventually try to sever the connection (when, not if), most of the content is over here and people want to switch.

The ONLY good thing about the existence of Threads is that I'll finally be able to follow people from Instagram without actually having to use Instagram. Otherwise it's the largest honeypot of the entire Fediverse
- I seriously doubt you'll be able to see Instagram content from any other app. At most, they'll federate Threads content. But more probably they'll only federate inwards: Threads users will be able to follow anyone on the Fediverse, no one outside will get to see anything from inside.

All social media are same lol

It’s like this for every major mainstream social media app

I don't know if it this new service will be able to read posts from Lemmy or not, but I've already blocked this monstrosity just in case.

Eh... All the data is already with meta through Instagram, it's users is the target here. I'm sure most of Instagram users aren't complaining that much about collection of data. As long as this kills twitter I'm happy. Who knows it might point the rest of the users towards eventual decentralisation.

While I want to support decentralized approach, tbh at this point anything with correct moderation can be better than Twitter lol

Twitter collects just about as much data