Banned from Europe@Feddit.Org for calling out Zionist German pro-genocide propaganda.

I made a post about the Europeans who are being deported from Germany for being anti-genocide. https://lemmy.ml/post/28407953

A user repeated the now many times debunked lie that these victims facing deportation were "violent racist rioters". Blatant German propaganda, made up to smear opposition to the genocide in Palestine. Which Germany supplies 30% of the weapons for.

After calling them, and a few other users out for repeating the same lie, the moderators banned me.

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As almost always happens with this kind of thing, you were not banned for posting the story, you were banned for being an asshole. Your post of the story is still up, and look at all the places it's being crossposted.
Put it in a different light: Country X puts someone to death because they kissed a person of the same gender in public or something. Everyone on Lemmy thinks that's incredibly fucked up, they start posting stories about it.
And then someone comes in and starts yelling about how that country and its authorities are backwards medieval idiots, and attacking anyone who tries to say anything different. Then they get banned. Which gives them a handy opening to start yelling in all directions about how the moderators are anti-queer horrible people who are trying to censor the truth about how repressive this particular government is.
No one said "violent racist idiots." Everyone said this is a bad thing. I have no idea the truth about the original issue, if the people were involved in property damage or not (and honestly I don't care either way, they shouldn't have been deported before a conviction and probably not after one even if so). But you were banned for being a twat about it and calling other people in the thread "pro-genocide" and "defending fascism" and "racist idiots."
I suspect some people do this on purpose, so they can proceed to pitch a fit about it here, and feed into the narrative that anyone at all on Lemmy is pro-genocide, so they can paint themselves as the rare voices in the wilderness who are anti-genocide and generally sow mudslinging among people to no purpose. YDI. Don't be a twat in the comments and you won't have these types of issues.
- 100% this and we see this happening all the time!
  “I was banned by biased asshole mods!”
  Then you look at their comment history and it’s rife with vitriol and antagonism.
  I’m in an argument with a few of those trolls in another thread. Is there a social media platform out there that has private modlogs? Because I’d wager that’s where these people are from. They’re not used to having their shit shown.
  
  I think it's on purpose.
  There is a whole art form to creating a consensus view of reality that doesn't exist. One of the most important parts is repetition, from multiple apparently-different sources, with a ton of emotional weight behind it.
  One of the constant through-lines from some small selected set of the users here is that lemmy.world, feddit.org, all the "main" instances are full of Zionists who will delete any criticism of Israel (and, also, any criticism of the Democratic Party). It's laughable nonsense, but they say it so loudly and so consistently that it's honestly kind of hard to resist it making it into the consciousness to some extent. I honestly don't know why they do this so consistently. But it's definitely noticeable once you start looking for it.
  I had no particular idea whether this particular user was going to overlap with any "to save the world let's not vote for Kamala Harris" posting, just because they were pursuing some nonsense in this particular separate sense. But oh look...
  https://ponder.cat/u/geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml?page=1&sort=Controversial&view=Overview
  Literally the post one tick above this one, is urging people to save Gaza by letting Donald Trump win. Got it. Perfect sense. Wonder why.
  
  One of the constant through-lines from some small selected set of the users here is that lemmy.world, feddit.org, all the "main" instances are full of Zionists who will delete any criticism of Israel
  And a ten second search through the modlogs will prove this accusation of theirs incorrect. There’s TONS of posts/comments critical of Israel. It’s the ones that violate the rules that are removed.
  Maybe this is just more evidence that the majority of lemmy users that are the most vocal on the subject- are immature kids that can’t express themselves without resorting to insults.
  And for what it’s worth, I’ve been banned/had comments removed for arguing with a lot of them, so that also disproves their accusations- it then again, most of them pick fights so they can report people anyways….
  
  Your post of the story is still up
  The post they linked to is deleted, as is everything they ever posted on feddit.org, indicating that their instance ban ("reason: antisemitism") was done with the "remove content" checkbox checked.
- My opinion of this issue is separate, so I'll post a comment with my feelings on it, but I wanted to ask you- is there anywhere in English that talks about this property damage? I tried looking everywhere but the only reporting in English I'm seeing is leaving out this alleged property damage, and I tried machine translating the few articles I could identify (I'm no longer fluent in German, which is frankly tragic, and I don't know how to get it back) all had the same angle as the article posted and no mention of damages.
  
  I have no idea. And, like I said, to me it's not relevant.
  If the German government can conveniently overlook that Israel is killing people by the hundreds of thousands when they send weapons, then I can conveniently overlook any amount of property damage or "threatening employees" by people trying to stop that first thing. In fact I would say it is okay to downplay that second thing. I have no idea whether it even happened or not, but even if it did (and even if it had been proven, which I think no one is saying it was), it would be okay to me.
  I'm just saying you can make that argument without also needing to be an asshole to people in the comments.
  
  I don't know why your comment made me think you might know. Oh, well, thanks anyway.
  
  I don't have time to translate right now but here's an article from Deutsche Welle that goes into some detail on the (alleged) property damage. Essentially it's tied in with the attempted occupation of the FU university in Berlin. Hope that helps!
  
  You are an angel. This was very much what I was looking like. Thank you!
  
  You're welcome! Glad it was useful :)
- And then someone comes in and starts yelling about how that country and its authorities are backwards medieval idiots,
  Your argument doesn't stack up.
  Authorities of a country putting someone to death because they kissed someone of the same gender would be precisely backward medieval idiots. And so would be anyone supporting this punishment

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