3d ago

Beijing’s EU envoy “appalled” by Trump’s treatment of allies, says peace in Ukraine must not be dictated by US and Russia only

www.pravda.com.ua Beijing’s EU envoy “appalled” by Trump’s treatment of allies, says peace in Ukraine must not be dictated by US and Russia only

China’s special envoy for European affairs, Lu Shaye, has said he is “appalled” by US President Donald Trump’s treatment of America’s European allies. He added that a peace deal for Ukraine should not be decided solely by the US and Russia.

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3d ago

Beijing’s EU envoy “appalled” by Trump’s treatment of allies, says peace in Ukraine must not be dictated by US and Russia only

www.pravda.com.ua /eng/news/2025/03/6/7501586/

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China has no fucking leg to stand on.
Anyone who can't see the hypocrisy, then you are just like the idiots that voted for Trump.
- To be honest right now China has more legs than the US. The US has been on the wrong side of history for way too long.
  
  That's a pretty low bar to choose.
  
  I'm not saying US good, China bad.
  I'm saying you have to be pretty dumb to think China has any business talking shit about anyone.
  It is this kind of bullshit that got Trump elected.
  Y'all are either a bunch of trolls, paid propagandists, or just really dumb.
  
  I am not sure I understand your point. I am not a huge fan of China but the US hit rock bottom for me.
  And mind you here the US is the one who is talking shit about other countries all the time, not China. So yes, I have no sympathy for a country electing an obviously senile person and turning this senile person into a cult.
  
  I think the previous user is speaking out of emotion more than logic, but I would say they are correct at least about the hypocrisy. China has been supplying Russia with arms and intelligence all throughout their invasion of Ukraine.
  On its surface I think the statement in this article is good but I can't help but wonder if the underlying meaning is that China just doesn't want to be left out of the conversation, since they have basically been doing for Russia what the US was doing for Ukraine.
  
  I am definitely not going to argue against the U.S. being a turd bucket.
  I'm just saying China is the pot calling the kettle black.
  For the next four years, absolutely keep us at arms length and don't trust us.
  China has been untrustworthy for decades and has zero impetus for change.
  
  Problem is trust is lost instantly and won over time.
  
  The US has never been trustworthy. What is your point?
  Hint: Not a single country has ever been trustworthy.
  
  I have a feeling this entire platform is littered with them. It's just like reddit.
- Yeah they do. I'm just saying it as I see it. They've been a solid economic partner for years and haven't started any aggression on the world stage my entire life. You're really rather do business with the US than China right now? What exactly have you got except the same tired old prejudices?
  
  Nine dash line says what? Galwan valley was just a fun outing. And Vietnam must've hurt itself in confusion.
  
  Of the three superpowers, that's massively less aggressive than the others. By like, many orders is magnitude.
  
  Right...Not like China is planning to invade its neighbor Taiwan or anything.
  
  The Philippines might want a word with you. Tell them they've done nothing aggressive on the world stage your entire life. Were you born yesterday? Even if you were it wouldn't change the fact that even yesterday they were making aggressive moves toward them in their own territorial waters.
- China has been outspoken against the war in Ukraine since way before, but didn't want to loose Russia as an ally, while the EU was under US influence. Now that that is changing, China has more room to act.
  Same if you look at the Iran/Russia relationship. It was mostly an alliance out of geopolitical necessity. Now that Israel is more brazen about its cooperation with Russia, probably looking towards a new Alliance of Russia, US, Israel politics in the Middle East, Iran will also change its position towards Russia.
  
  Any political advesery will take any opportunity, ESPECIALLY China, to make statements like this, because they can. They pretend to take the high road in order score points.
  It's laughable that anyone can even take it at face value. I am serious when I say that Trump was elected because people are so fucking dumb, that they can't see the emperor has no clothes.
  This is the same kind of bullshit political messaging, and it's outrageous that you can even give China the benefit of the doubt.
  I'm not trying to say USA is good, China is bad. I'm saying China has a history of this bullshit, so now you eat it up because they are talking shit about the abomination the U.S. has become.
  FYI, saying China has been outspoken against the war is a perfect example.
  It doesn't cost them anything to say it, meanwhile they are happily selling weapons to Russia.
  Just like US saying what is happening in Palestine is bad, while dumping armaments be on Israel.
  Talk is so cheap, so you have to look at actions and China's actions are about as bad as they come.
- Whataboutism
  
  How is this whataboutism? You just picked some random buzzword to come back at me?
  Man I thought Lemmy would be different but there is no real dialogue, just garbage vomited into comments
  
  No, it's pretty clear, look it up.

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