Gen Z are over having their work ethic questioned: ‘Most boomers don’t know what it’s like to work 40+ hours a week and still not be able to afford a house’

Landlords all the way down.

Hell if you aren't able to save anything you will definitely be heading for bum status when you get old enough that you can't work. Holding on to being able to own something is an investment in not descending into desperate poverty later.

I picked this out because it illustrates how utterly fucked up our system is, because we need housing to be:

1. Expensive, because it's the default retirement investment vehicle for the working classes.
2. Cheap, so that young people just starting out can buy it.

See a problem?

I think its weird how people don’t believe people can actually be struggling in America without also somehow being the source of their own problems. It’s like people like you have broken brains.

Decades of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" Republican propaganda will do that. So many Americans have been convinced that if you aren't wealthy, you only have yourself to blame. And if you're poor, you are inherently flawed as a human.

Yeah that inital response gave me the impression that they live in a completely different situation than what I, and most of the people I know IRL are experiencing. Typical rent prices out here are 120% the sum of 2 weeks of minimum wage pay, not including utilities

Yep if you rent for 60 years you'll have nothing and spend more by far than the cost of the mortgage.

My rent is around 1800 euro, if I’d buy this apartment, my mortgage would be around 3000. That’s for more than half a mil. After 30 years I’d have paid off more than a mil.

The company I rent from just got their financing much earlier, and in very big quantities. (Eg it has 100s to 1000s apartments and houses.)

Every year I make more money, every year the place I live is more difficult to buy.

When I was young we averaged moving every 4.5 years, but for reasons, I got very accustomed to changing environments every year or so, and as an adult I’ve struggled to stay in one place for the clean start it offers, but moving is so expensive now, and I don’t like driving anywhere near enough to be a nomad van dweller type.

I can maybe do it one more time in the near future, assuming money and housing values don’t tank first, but that’s probably it for the rest of my days. I hope it really scratches the anxious itch for change, cuz if not..