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Trump overturns Biden's executive order to sanction Israeli settlers in West Bank

www.haaretz.com

An additional executive order meant to "protect the United States from foreign terrorists and other national security and public threats" is undeniably meant to apply to pro-Palestinian protesters across America, particularly on college campuses.

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gg .ml you got what you advocated for. You "voted against genocide" and got more of it like everybody told you you would
- I am so glad that I have blocked .ml and grad
- You do realize the genocide is (for now) over right? Like there's literally a ceasefire going on. Trump overturning Biden's posturing is... Well, it's not good but making this your "told you so" moment is just silly.
  
  the genocide is (for now) over
  "for now" is really doing some heavy lifting there
  Netanyahu says Israel 'reserves right to resume war' and calls first phase a 'temporary ceasefire'
  but also, even if the ceasefire was permanent, that doesn't mean the genocide stops.
  if you bomb a bunch of hospitals, and then agree to a ceasefire, the hospitals don't magically come back into existence.
  ditto water treatment plants and similar infrastructure. Diseases spread in Gaza as sewage contaminates camps and coast
  a ceasefire means that the "dropped a bomb on a refugee camp" aspect of the genocide stops. the "there's a refugee camp with a never-ending stream of needless and preventable deaths" aspect of the genocide will continue unabated.
  
  the "there's a refugee camp with a never-ending stream of needless and preventable deaths" aspect of the genocide will continue unabated.
  I mean yes, but what is Trump going to do to exacerbate that that Biden wasn't and Harris wasn't going to? America was simply never going to become a source of positive change in this conflict, so if anything Trump's isolationist tendencies work in Palestinians' favor, and otherwise he's neutral compared to Biden/Harris.
  
  if anything Trump’s isolationist tendencies work in Palestinians’ favor, and otherwise he’s neutral compared to Biden/Harris.
  I don't even know where to begin peeling the onion of how incredibly stupid this statement is.
  
  Okay I'll bite: What did Trump do in his first term that had a material negative impact on Palestine that wasn't just regular US foreign policy?
  
  genocide is (for now) over right?
  Wrong. Genocide is not bombing people, it's killing a people through a variety of means, including displacement. The expanding West Bank settlements Trump supports are also genocide.
  
  The expanding West Bank settlements Trump supports are also genocide.
  True enough, but what is Trump doing and what did he do in the past to materially support these settlements? Alternatively, what did Biden do to materially impede their expansion? Differences in rhetoric don't matter to the Palestinians being expelled from their homes. And please don't respond with Biden's executive order that sanctioned a total of four people.
  
  The Trump administration actually broke with decades of U.S. policy by declaring that Israeli settlements in the West Bank were not inconsistent with international law, effectively endorsing Israeli claims to parts of the territory. Significantly reduced U.S. financial assistance to Palestinians, including ending funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moved its embassy there to undermine the Palestinians (Adelson spent $20m for this)
  His window, a megadonor for settlement development in the West Bank donated 100m to Trump with her stated goals being Israeli annexation of the West Bank and a U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty in all the regions of the land. Trumps #1 donor above Musk.
  This was part of the deal that stopped the right wing factions in the Israeli govt from blocking the ceasefire. Are they the worse of two evils? Or is the fact that you're aligned with them escaping you?
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  Netanyahu compromises with Smotrich, Ben-Gvir to secure ceasefire deal
  Israeli media reports indicate that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered enticing proposals to Israeli Police Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, including plans to expand settlements in the West Bank and enhance security measures.
  According to Israeli reports, Netanyahu is attempting to persuade Ben-Gvir and Smotrich to back the agreement by highlighting two key points: first, that Trump’s presidency will bring significant benefits to “Israel”, and second, that “Israel” will be able to resume the war if needed, with US support.
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  Bezalel Smotrich, Israel’s far-right finance minister, has said that he was given assurances that the war on Gaza would continue and Israel would launch a “gradual takeover of the entire Gaza Strip”.
  He said that his faction had demanded and "received a commitment" that the method of war would be completely changed.
  That included, said Smotrich, "through a gradual takeover of the entire Gaza Strip, the lifting of the restrictions imposed on us by the [US President Joe] Biden administration, and full control of the Strip, so that humanitarian aid will not reach Hamas as it has been until now."
  
  there's [litchally like no other adverbs exist] a ceasefire
  The ceasefire was broken by Israeli reservists shooting Palestinians, within a day.
  Now it's just Israelis pot-shotting gazans and begging them to lob a stone.

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