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Are you a 'tankie'

edit: this is now closed future comments won't be counted

I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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  • Nope, I'm for social democracy and think a healthy government is a balance between left and right. This balance has been lost lately.

    I do believe that the discourse need some more leftism, however not of the stalinist (or Marxist-Leninist as people call it) kind.

    • Why does there need to be a balance of left and right to be healthy? Why do you believe this balance has been lost, if it's healthier to have it?

      • I'm looking towards the violent shifting of power and ideology after the French Revolution. Its people coming to power through struggle, wreaking revenge on the other side of the Isle and then the balance of power shifting again, with the same violent results.

        Unchecked power isn't pretty. There need to be balance. However the discourse is creeping to the right almost everywhere and that fudges a lot up.

        • Revolution is a response to current society failing. Revolution doesn't happen because random people do it spontaneously, but is a result of declining material conditions.

          Unchecked power may not be pretty, but I fail to see what that has to do with left vs right. It seems to me that retaining Capitalist hedgemony for the sake of "balance" is just idealism.

          • Well in a well balanced system the industry and high captial woudn't have the most influence on politics. Redistribution of wealth can be archieved without bloodshed.

            In my opinion that is, I don't think capitalist he d gemony is evil per se, only if it's allowed to run rampant, which it does without proper checks and blances.

            • Having Capitalism at all means you have outsized influence on the state from Capitalists.

              Capitalist hedgemony is evil because it necessarily grows and decays like a cancer, resulting in Imperialism, hyper-exploitation, and power consolidation in fewer and fewer hands. You cannot check it.

              • I didn't think we would see eye to eye, but I wish to do so amically.

                Thanks for the discussion!

                (btw it's hegemony, without the d. No hedgefunds in there)

    • Tbf, there's no "right" anymore in the USA - it got eaten up, vomited back out, re-eaten again, with that process repeated a few times, and is now known as the "Alt-Right", before being subsequently rebranded yet again as "Q".

      In other words, the old "GOP" (e.g. Mitch McConnell) is virtually dead at this point, or at least barely hanging on by the slimmest of threads, while now long live the "GQP", that is an entirely different beast.

      And I think I am hearing similarly of the UK as well, with Brexit?

      So if you meant that we need a healthy balance of diverse viewpoints, then I am 100% with you, but if you mean that we need to pollute true scientific facts with the craziest batshit insanity that anyone has ever heard of, then not so much:-). Diversity among viable solutions = good, whereas a literal Civil War b/c the "right" is throwing a temper tantrum = not so much. Even/especially the very people in charge... they are so scared of what is happening, the dissolution of a nation right before all of our eyes, and on their watch too.

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