Bill Barr says Trump often suggested executing rivals in heated White House outbursts
Bill Barr says Trump often suggested executing rivals in heated White House outbursts
Despite Bill Barr’s repeatedly voicing concerns about Donald Trump, he has now said he will vote for him again this November
Despite Bill Barr’s repeatedly voicing concerns about Donald Trump, he has now said he will vote for him again this November
Bill Barr has claimed Donald Trump often suggested executing his political rivals during heated moments of his four-year tenure in the White House.
Former White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin told The View back in December that Mr Trump once called for a staff member to be put to death for leaking a story about the then-president going down to a bunker during Black Lives Matter protests in summer 2020.
Former Trump administration attorney general Mr Barr was asked about the claims during an interview on CNN last week.
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“He would say things similar to that on occasions to blow off steam. But I wouldn’t take them literally every time he did it,” Mr Barr said, adding: “At the end of the day, it wouldn’t be carried out and you could talk sense into him.”
So either we're counting on people to refuse the president's orders, or we're hoping the Trump is more mature than he lets on?
How about not electing people who would even entertain such an idea in the first place?
How about not electing people who would even entertain such an idea in the first place?
The people who vote for Trump vote for him because he would entertain such an idea &/or they are deluded enough to think they're not on his list.
How mad are you gonna be when Trump wins the election?
Sad, not mad.
He won't. Fuck your fuhrer.
Thank goodness there isn't a publicly accessible, written version of a plan to replace everyone with sycophants right here: www dot project2025 dot org
And lawyers working for the dude telling SCOTUS that assassinating rivals should be legal for the president since it should be considered an "official act"...
The fact that he gets so angry that this is his go to proves he’s not mature enough, so people will need to rely on those to oppose those wishes.
He's as mature as a 12yo on Xbox Live
"Seriously, but not literally; literally, but not seriously."
That ship has sailed. But the US still has a president rather than a dictator. For now. So, a better question is, how about we limit the authority of the president, in accordance with the Constitution!? This country was literally founded on the idea that a king (or queen) has too much power and the Leaders need to be accountable to the People.
I think "every time" could be read in different ways.
How about electing people who would and making sure they're on our side? Violence is coming. It's just a matter of taking the initiative. Stop being naive.
Normalizing political violence will inevitably, and possibly literally, blow up in your own face.
or you can hope it doesn't happen until it does and then you're standing there with your pants down. the entire future of every living thing on this planet may come down to whether we have the balls to do the right thing or not. the path to utopia may not be pretty, but when hell on earth is a possibility, you kinda don't have a choice.
You're hardly the first person to think they can kill their way to Utopia. It has never worked.
You’re hardly the first person to think that the end result is always the same
Except the end result has historically always been the same; Hate begets hate.
"I swear, our needless violence won't result in needless violence, this isn't like all the others, our needless violence is special and kind!"
What do they say about the 'definition of insanity' again? “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Insanity is doing nothing while you watch sociopaths ruin the world for all living creatures for the foreseeable future.
The fact that you can only see violence as the option to "doing nothing" is sort of the problem.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance
There's power in unity. Much moreso than in violence.
nonviolent resistance worked in the 20th century because there were still plenty of people who cared or at least pretended to care. the 21st century is basically sociopaths, dissociative personality types, and pacifists. there's no good people left with a spine and you're about to see what that world breeds. it may already be too late.
Unions still work just as well as they did last century. Hell, they work better.
What you're essentially saying is that "well this thing that has never worked is the solution and we shouldn't use the thing that has been proved to work".
It is hard to organise activism globally, but nonviolence still works better than violence.
What stands in it's way is people believing there's no point to nonviolent resistance... a bit like you.
And neither of us will be the first person proven wrong on our respective points.
That’s got to be a Farside comic or something: Thag standing there with his pants down while the asteroid destroys Dinotopia.
Or Dr Strangelove or something, yeah the end of the world coming, let’s make it happen
Doomsday cult preaching the Rapture so opening the portal to Chthulu to rain down terror and insanity
What makes you think you'd survive a purity test by a "strong leader"?
man, you gotta get the idea out of your head that only evil people murder. we killed plenty of nazis and the world is better for it. pacifists never win.
I'm not a pacifist. People kill other people for a lot of reasons all the time. Some of them good. What makes you think only
<insertStrongLeaderHere>can judge who deserves to be "purged" en masse?oh, you can do it too my friend
Do what? Political purge?
we can do anything we set our minds to. we have the technology to allow one half of america to coordinate something that the other half has no clue about.
i honestly want to know how we can make it to the end of this century with half of the population perpetuating a culture of cruelty. how long will you deprive future generations of the utopia that we could be enjoying NOW if only the obstacles to that path were removed? how many innocent creatures will suffer and die before we do something?
Anything?!?!? Like, changing the world without killing millions of the most vulnerable among us?
And yes, millions are dying now anyway, but that won't stop if just start killing more people faster.
Russia are the bad guys because they invaded another country. That is unacceptable violence. Ukraine are the good guys because they're defending themselves. That is acceptable violence. If Ukraine had preemptively attacked Russia, they wouldn't be the good guys. Hamas are the bad guys because they targeted civilians. If they had only attacked military targets, I don't think things in Gaza would have gone so bad so fast. The Israeli government and military are also the bad guys, and in fact they probably think they're doing exactly what you're advocating for. Kill the bad guys before they do anything bad to make the world better/safer for everyone else. That's the problem when your only solution is killing.
You seem to arguing that the only solution to 1/2 the world being cruel is for the other 1/2 to be cruel, too...we can't end suffering by inflicting suffering...even if went perfectly we'd still have a world where 1/2 the people were cruel, it'd just be a different 1/2.
okay. tell me how you realistically think we're going to avoid the coming dystopia then. show me a practical path that creates change for the better in time to stop our destructive path.
We're seeing it now. I don't know how old you are, I'm assuming you are in your teens or early 20s? Even 5 years ago, what we're seeing on college campuses now would have been, literally, unimaginable. Especially in the face of such harsh crackdown. I was in the US military when DOMA was repealed in 2013. The questions people asked felt legitimate at the time, but in retrospect, they all sound like arguments from 75 years ago. People were concerned about LGB couples in base housing, getting benefits, etc. At one point, the General giving us the briefing last his patience and just yelled at the old guys hounding on those questions that they could quit being bigoted or leave the service. I left the TQ+ off intentionally because those people weren't even an afterthought at that point in time. We've got legal medical and recreational marijuana in about 1/2 the country and even got some cities experimenting with UBI. I cannot stress how absolutely wild the idea of any level of American government just giving people money...no strings attached is to people who grew up hearing about welfare queens and worries people were buying the wrong foods with their food stamps.
Solidarity is the path. Unionize, vote in numbers large enough to overwhelm, then dismantle gerrymandering. Tell the stories of the disadvantaged and underprivileged to as many people as you can. Get involved in politics at the local level...not just every 4 years. Support RCV, welcome mid- and high- density housing in your neighborhood. Use whatever privileges you have under this system to be the voice for those without said privileges.
It's a big world, it won't change overnight...and if it did, it's unlikely that change would last. Even if it changed over 20 years, it might not last unless we take the time to convince a majority of the people that those changes are worth protecting.
It's hard work, and it's frustratingly slow at times. Burning down the house easy, building it isn't.