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Top Meta executive said the company's name change was a success because it beat out coverage of the 'Facebook Papers' revelations

www.businessinsider.com Top Meta executive said the company's name change was a success because it beat out coverage of the 'Facebook Papers' revelations

Meta's Chris Cox explained to employees the company's rebrand succeeded in driving press coverage amid whistleblower disclosures.

Top Meta executive said the company's name change was a success because it beat out coverage of the 'Facebook Papers' revelations::Meta's Chris Cox explained to employees the company's rebrand succeeded in driving press coverage amid whistleblower disclosures.

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I can't imagine willingly working for a company this openly evil. Imagine sitting through an all hands like this.
- Some software engineers are fine with temporarily casting aside their morals in exchange for a north of 200k USD salary.
- Software engineers (the ones who work in firms producing nonfree software) have little to no class consciousness since none of them actually have meaningful ownership of the code they produce. They are just laborers of a greater executive/shareholders' visions. This way, they get to deflect blame since they were "another cog in the machine."
  Software engineers will not EVER push back on these companies because they have no hutzpah materially (worker ownership) or socially (Corporate mindshare). Opponents of free software correctly point this out but never go further than "i just need to make money."
  
  Why try to make enemies? I'm the kind of person you're talking about and I've absolutely pushed back and even left jobs over ethical issues.
  No need to stereotype and create artificial divisions. We're on the same side.
  
  Yeah, this and the other reply was helpful. What I said wasnt constructive and I apologize. This kind of thing just gets me super edgy and I channeled it in the wrong way. Thanks.
  
  Y'all made up... lol. Now unionize!
- I mean you gotta eat. I dont work for meta but for an industry that is probably scum. I think what I do adds value to it being less evil. I also do the bare minimum and they pay me so I think thats a win-win.
  
  How easily could you get a job elsewhere though? Meta devs have a choice and they chose greed. These aren't people struggling to pay bills dude. I'm getting sick of people acting like they are.
  And note that I did say "willingly". I understand there are people at Meta, especially non-devs, who may not have a choice. I doubt they are anywhere near a majority though.
  
  Software engineers can find high paying jobs easily, they can choose. Unless they want to eat caviar at every meal.
  
  Thats a very broad statement that is only true for some software engineers
  
  You're trying to tell me that Meta devs can't find a job anywhere else? Give me a break. It's hilarious how this thread touched such a nerve.
  
  Which kind of software engineers have trouble finding high paying jobs relatively to where they live?
  
  Disabled and/or burnt out ones.
  
  This applies to any profession, so back to my initial point.
  
  I guess I'm missing where you made your initial point of "this applies to any profession". Could you please restate your point?
  
  I'm talking about the condition of software engineers, and being disabled/burnt out applies to any profession, so it's not a valid argument to counter my point that software engineers can get high paying jobs and can choose where they want to work.
  
  Did he say anything about software engineers? It's not as if thats the only job available at corporations.
  
  It's the majority of the payroll at this kind of company, and I wanted to mention them in particular. Do you disagree with my statement applied to software engineers?

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