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I wish there was more porn
Points for honesty, but how does one find exploitation free porn? I know some smart women who would say there is no such thing.
So being a sexual creature like any other, I get it but also maybe it's OK if that just lives on pornhub or whatever :)
i dont know how you define exploitation here. reddit had girls and couples posting their own content while driving traffic to their onlyfans accounts. pretty valid if you ask me.
lemmynsfw is great but there's not a lot of users at the moment.
i don't think pornhub or whatever needs to be the only option for sex work on the internet.
I'm all for more options for sex work. And I certainly have no puritanical objections to consenting adults enjoying the idea of others enjoying their bodies!
It’s hard to find. I disagree with the anti porn feminist stance, but I respect it. In fact Dworkin is one of the feminists that I respect most despite disagreeing with her on this topic.
So how do you find it? Find exhibitionists or independent purveyors (or worker owned porn cooperatives). One of my exes used to sell nudes and she enjoyed it. But yeah it’s very difficult to be certain.
Personally though, I prefer to stick to the written stuff. Much likely to be exploitative and plot gets me wet.
The answer is these days I mostly don't. No judgement though :)
I would argue that AI is in the process of creating the most exploitation free version of porn. The things you see posted here from AI diffusion are mostly amateur. I can make far far more realistic images but it takes a thorough understanding of AI alignment and why very strong alignment was needed to conform to cultural expectations. I won't go into the ethics of base datasets except to say there are many things that can be generated that had no real world analogue.
What I initially wrote:I'm old and nervous, and while some small part of my brain reads this and says "Cool! Neat!" the larger part IMMEDIATELY leaps to other ... things.
I feel like I need to say the quiet bit out loud here, and will do so in the hope that it will be taken for what it is - collegial discourse around a topic of shared interest.
I'm super concerned about this idea. There are so many ramifications that verge into the negative here that it makes my head spin.
How can we be sure that the training corpi used to create said Porn AI will be free of images drawn from sex trafficking and/or abuse victims? What about images from folks who gave freely when they were 18 and in high school but now are 28 and applying for jobs as school teachers?
Also, how will the AI "understand" things like informed consent? Even more questionable are things like social norms
Anyway, it will certainly be interesting to watch this space evolve.
I think it will take shift to liberalism forcefully, but also real versus digital will shift. It means far less need for workers to have many questionable partners in the analogue world. There are presently biases that try to prevent several behaviors but there are ways around these. Ultimately, it means a shift to a culture where being naked is irrelevant and no petty nonsense stigma associated with an image. People are stupid about this stuff anyways. If you get your rocks off by seeing me naked or doing whatever, that is on you. If you start harassing me with that stuff, that is another issue entirely. If I find something disturbing, I have a right to ask for its removal, but ultimately this is the price of public imagery. If you do not want to have your likeness replicated, do not post publicly. This is the only effective way to regulate the behavior. The technology is already public and open source. That can never be eliminated; only driven underground which is exactly where the few people willing to exploit people are located. Regulation ultimately makes the problem worse. Normalization is democratization, and that is the best result for everyone long term. It sucks for people that have a large public image, but deep fake type images were around long before diffusion. This is simply easier access to the skills required to create such images. It will soon be video as well. Allowing anyone to control this tech is a massive mistake anyways. It is a global academic advancement in math and computer science. Any country stupid enough to attempt conservative regulation simply makes their nation technologically irrelevant because the research will continue external to the Luddite nonsense. The way AI develops in the next decade or two I'd the most important technology of the first half of this century, especially in the military implications. Restricting this space is about the dumbest thing anyone could do right now. You are likely to see the era of AI drones that kill and are effective autonomously at scale. That alone changes everything in the world as we know it. One in 3 FPV drones hits a target in Ukraine right now. They are ~$800 each. A single artillery round is ~$10k and they hit a target far far less often. When the FPV operator is no longer needed and an AI is just as effective...
All of this is relevant and interrelated where innovations in one area of AI get applied to others as they are all similar math problems. How people feel about the tech is irrelevant in the grand scheme. So a massive shift in culture is inevitable, or WW3, maybe both.
the idea of jerking off to anything that isn't real people does not appeal to me at all
Have you checked out the ai generated porn?
To import new communities on an instance into the all feed, go to places like LemmyNSFW and look at what is active, any community that says "pending" when you try to subscribe is waiting for the instance synchronization bots to make the community available. Once this happens, everyone will see the community in the All feed for your instance. Indeed there are a lot more porn posts happening, you just have to be a little proactive about finding them.
... I know... Uhhh! Effort?!
but we all have to take some ownership to be here. This is like, the only service reddit ever provided and now, to make this place work, we have to do it. I'm the reason a couple NSFW communities are on .world, so this is not a hypothetical. There are many other instances for NSFW content too.