Went on All today and saw many posts celebrating Sen. Feindtein's recent passing. Why is she so hated on the left?
I'm not from California, so I don't know much about her; but this genuinely surprised me, especially how vicious and vitriolic the comments were. What's going on there?
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Since you’re getting troll comments from right wingers I’ll try to give an actual answer
Feinstein was no longer mentally fit to serve in office. She was essentially the pre-cursor to a weekend at Bernie’s setup. She was not cognitively present enough to vote on legislation or even hold a conversation.
People are glad she passed because it means her seat is open to someone who can actually work on policy and benefit their constituents.
Liberals are not exactly a fan of letting the elderly die in office after the RBG situation that ended up with a stacked court when she had the option to retire under Obama.
Also Lemmy has definitely been having more right wing trolls recently and it’s making me want to use the platform less.
She was also more of a neoliberal centrist, and had some moments that were, at best, terrible optics. She condescendingly admonished some kids asking her about her stance on climate change. As mayor of San Francisco, she defended flying the Confederate Flag as part of a monument to American Historical Flags. Then when a black man climbed the pole in a Union uniform to tear it down, she replaced it the next day. So he climbed the pole the next day and took it down again, and he was arrested. She put it back up the third day and posted guards to keep it up. She later "evolved" on the issue of flying the Confederate flag.
As mayor, she was violently anti-punk music, and was considered far more conservative than her predecessor. She became mayor after her predecessor was assassinated by political rival and former police officer, who also killed Harvey Milk in the same shopting. The assassin was convicted of voluntary manslaughter and served 5 years in prison. Her administration was notably friendlier to police and real estate development.
Did I mention she made millions of dollars in real estate and investments? After the 2022 death of her third husband, her net worth was estimated at around $90 million, making her one of the top 5 or so wealthiest Senators. I say "or so" because it's really hard to pin down how much Senators have or what they earn, and there are alarmingly few regulations regarding disclosures of investments in the Senate. Feinstein sat on the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and the Senate Committee on Appropriations.
In 2013, she blamed the Sandy Hook shootings on violent video games.
And when it became obvious that she was no longer in control of her mental faculties, she refused to step down.
Unlike Reddit, you can shit on those trolls. Go shit on them, my child. Be like the bamboo: bend and whip them to pain.
bend and whip them to pain.
I think most of them are into that judging by their AOC memes.
Awwww, you had the site since it's beginning, you don't care to hear opinions other than groupthink from leftists? Too fucking bad. Make a safe space.
You are cringe lmfao
Also Lemmy has definitely been having more right wing trolls recently and it’s making me want to use the platform less.
God forbid your echo chamber get tainted 🙄
I’m not interested in seeing blatant hate, homophobia, transphobia, sexism and racism.
There’s no such thing as a right wing voter with any common sense anymore. None have any arguments other than being allowed to hate.
Keep in mind that some people on here are from outside the US where there still might be decent democratic center-right movements
I’m not interested in seeing blatant hate, homophobia, transphobia, sexism and racism.
It’s this kind of petulant behavior right here. Calling everyone you don’t like a nazi just gets you ignored.
I didn’t call anyone a nazi. You did. I just listed a list of reprehensible behaviors and you felt attacked
I didn’t feel attacked at all? I’m not a right winger at all, just pointing out that your extremist language helps nobody.
There’s no extremist language at all. It’s a simple statement of facts.
The right wing of American politics explicitly supports racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia.
The fact that you got triggered and ran to “nazis” shows a lot more about you.
Sir, you can drop the personal attacks, I already said I’m not a rightoid or anywhere near there.
I have a personal friend, grew up on a cattle ranch, best friend was a black kid that worked with him. He voted republican all the time because he (wrongly) thought they represented his way of life.
Some loser like you comes along and calls him a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam does absolutely nothing but undo years of work trying to drag him to the light. You’re acting as ignorant as he is.
“I can’t be racist, I have a black friend”
At this point anyone who still willingly voted for the Republican Party is explicitly endorsing those ideals. Ignorance is not an excuse. If you vote for American republicans you’re outwardly and explicitly condoning those behaviors.
It’s not my job to make them feel comfortable. If they support those policies they’re not worth the breath it would take to try to explain it.
Let me repeat it. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Also the only one resorting to personal attacks is you
Do you get offended when people don't appreciate queer culture and exposing children to sexually charged drag shows?
Do you get offended when the Democratic party is cast as only pandering to minorities to get their vote?
Do you feel like you also shouldn't own a gun?
Let's try some generalizations since you can't be hurt by them.
If you're not queer you shouldn't be offended.
No, because that’s all false generalizations. But you know that and aren’t looking for conversation, you just want some gotcha moment.
Drag is not inherently sexual, and family friendly drag shows are not sexual at all, despite the lies you e been told.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at. We’re all very well aware the dnc is as corrupt as the rnc, but one side actively works against the interest of minorities and one doesn’t.
I feel nobody should own guns and we’d all be safer for it. There’s no reason anyone needs a gun except to defend themselves from another gun, which wouldn’t be a problem if we had any kind of common sense gun laws.
You’re not gonna get the response you want.
They didn't make any personal attacks.
The fact that they’re taking my broad generalizations about the Republican Party as personal attacks is very telling
Oh man that's honestly the funniest thing I've seen all day lol
"racism, sexism, and homophobia are bad"
"whoa whoa whoa man, cool it with the personal attacks"
Talk about telling on yourself lol
😭
Jeeeesus christ you're sucking that personal outrage cock like nobody's business.
You: I'm not a right winger at all
Also you: Folks, never vote democrat
Given that we (unfortunately) exist in a two party system, it's either one or the other bud, and I think we all know which answer is actually true to your beliefs lol
And before you respond with "I was just mocking the guy above me". The fact that your whole post history is mocking democrats, and never Republicans says all you need to know lol
I mean, there’s not a lot of repubs to engage with on this platform. But you’re right, we exist in a two party system and both parties are too far right for me to vote for either.
Doesn’t stop me from calling out conservatives that vindicate themselves by voting D.
They weren't talking about you, they were making a point.
They weren't making a point, they were parroting a cliche that they've used so many times before, that they don't even wait for the proper context before reusing it again.
Just because you disagree or it was a cliche doesn't mean they weren't making a point.
I’m fine with being ignored by Nazis
I wish they'd ignore me but noooo...
Calling yourself a Nazi is fairly effective at getting you ignored, however.
Should be punched in the face but our society is sadly full of cowards these days.
God damn you people are stupid. You dont even have an argument, you're just crying that someone doesnt like racists.
Literal strawman. You people are fucking dull.
As someone who leans left and hates the GOP, you're absolutely right. Lemmy is an echochamber full of a lot of nonsense that limits it's potential and just causes more division and problems.
So your response to a reasonable statement about this being an echochamber is a strawman attack against me... ok.
Tainted is a good word for when right wingers join the conversation, thank you
Just like what they did with the US govt.
I remember when i got banned from r/conservative for asking for a source for a claim.
Don’t you know, proof is optional for the republicans?
They’re trying to impeach without proof, they’ve lied through their teeth every single day they’ve been in office. Proof doesn’t matter, and despite their favorite saying being “facts don’t care about your feelings” they don’t need facts
Actually their belief in inversely proportional to proof. The more proof you have, the less they believe it. The less proof you have, the more you believe it.
combine that with their penchant for “every accusation is a confession”
I got banned from there for posting a verbatim Trump tweet with no words of my own included. Never seen a bigger group of melting snowflakes in my life than the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd.
Oh and like it was any different going into r/politics ya joker. Preach to your crowd, you're still surrounded by groupthink in your safe space don't worry.
There's a difference between discussion with differing opinions and simple trolling to rile people up. Posting things as though they are settled fact without willingness to be argued against is bad faith trolling. We should ban/exterminate X class of people is also trolling since it puts an impossibly wide brush to a group based on some singular characteristic.
Agree with you totally.
Edit: I may have confused this with another asking about finding 'correct non-MSM sources' and posting stories about 'vaccine bad' and 'masks cause brain damage', but I'll leave it in case those are still up elsewhere and say if I did mix it up then mea-culpa.
Edit edit: Yeah, growling at the wrong person. Meant for this one https://lemmy.today/post/1533120
I'm willing to take the notion that there's an honest intent. The major problem I would see is that in looking for 'non MSM' sources isn't in looking for alternative views, it's in looking for a confirmation bias fulfilling source. Scientific reporting becomes 'mainstream' through a consensus on facts pushing the reported version to the front page.
You would be hard pressed to find someplace that says asbestos, lead paint, and cigarettes are good and healthy things for anyone, but I'm sure if you look really hard some 'non-MSM' source would put together a story of why they in fact make for a fine breakfast cereal. Things such as one of the first posts you made regarding 'masks kill brain cells' fall into the same category. Somebody with a personal ax to grind will inevitably find reason to claim they are bad, but the overwhelming normalization of their use in medical facilities by people far more knowledgeable than you or I, very well educated people who's very profession is to study these things, makes any such claims as you made sit out in the lunatic fringe side of conversations.
Unfortunately, there are a good number of people out there gullible enough to be baited by such things, for example see the whole 'QAnon' fiasco, and putting such things out there is a net bad for society. Social media for all it's uses also allows followers of absurd theories to reinforce each other's beliefs where previously such things would be left to die in darkness.
Oh yeah you mean like this guy above right?... Right?
Username checks out.