Trump: ‘I’m really not trolling’ with talk of Canada as 51st state
Trump: ‘I’m really not trolling’ with talk of Canada as 51st state
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I think this bears repeating.
We will make you forget Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The insurrection will be continent wide and we will just walk over the border and start looting weapons.
We are tougher than anyone thinks and can survive just fine pretending to be homeless or just in your woods or in a looted home.
We will live among you indistinguishable until something good to blow up comes along, or an American needs tied to a tree with their dick in their mouth.
You’ll never feel safe. You’ll never be safe.
Promise.
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Yeah, there would be war crimes.
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The Geneva Convention did need an update
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Geneva Checklist.
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IEDs. Just sayin'.
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The US' infrastructure is incredibly weak and vulnerable, and there are about a million(!) Canadians living in the US -- and that doesn't include dual citizens which is probably double that.
So it'll be nothing for Canadians living in the US to fuck shit up in a major way. How many refineries do you think the US can lose before people can't buy gas anymore? Those Amazon warehouses look pretty flammable. Datacentres would probably burn pretty good too. How long will it take to replace those high-power transmission line transformers? How is the East Coast going to power itself when Canada stops powering them? How are US airports going to operate when there's small drones continuously overhead? In fact given the hub-and-spoke design of US air travel, only a few airports need to be droned to completely shut down air travel across the US, including shipping. On a final note, only a few hundred grams of thermite can melt of hole through a wing or a fibreglas hull, so a lot of VERY expensive billionaire and government hardware can be reduced to ash with nothing but a small drone and a pissed-off Canadian.
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Canadian living in Colorado taking notes
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You're making it sound way harder than it is, The US has like 4? substations that if they all went down at once it would cascade fail about 90% of the grid, they aren't in bunkers or surrounded by armed guards or anything, they're random ass substations with chain link fences around them.
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Not to mention us Americans who would fight and sabotage for Canadian forces.
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If a Canadian tank rolled down the street the next day, I would run out asking to go with them
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Gooning to a theoretical war is wild.
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Just a reminder to non-canadians that a core part of Canadian identity has always been not being American. It’s a quasi-colonized pov. Make it real and it will be life-or-death for many many folk.
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Russia Ukraine vibes
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We're not always great a describing who we are, but we sure as fuck know who we are not.
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Yep, I frequently hear people bitching about the state of things in Canada and someone almost always follows up with "eh it could be worse, at least we're not murican"
Fuck murica.
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Hopefully the Canadians will team up with blue states and we can fight any war he tries inflicting on Canada. I am moving from Texas if we ever invade Canada, most likely Washington
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dont worry, the Police , Red State Military, and Private Militias will already have arrested , put a gun to the head of, or straight up killed any potential blue state rebel figureheads before they make a move like invading Canada or Mexico.
this is black and white, a Fascist coup that has taken over America.
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I think that we Canadians would be more than happy to add to the Geneva checklist should it come to this.
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doom music slowly increases in volume...
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Hey, just a lone Canuck on a 10 state fire season careless smoking tour of the wests national forests oughta do it. People forget that we're largely upwind.
And upstream, but that's a whole other level of sabotage.
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Please don't view AMERICA as your enemy, just MAGA. They may be in control of the government at the moment, but they don't control us.
Remember that HitlerPig's following is only about 1/3 of the country, and they are breath-takingly stupid. MOST of Americans are your allies, and will happily fight alongside you to take both of our countries back from the Nazis.
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So many of us have friends and family across the border. We know American people are fellow humans like anyone else and that the enemy is MAGA fascism.
Any American I see traveling in Canada without a MAGA hat will be welcomed by me with open arms. Canadians have a degree of empathy for what you're dealing with because we feel threatened by the fascist takeover too.
Canadians and Americans who give a damn about respecting peoples' dignity, no matter their gender or race, will stand in solidarity.
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I’d have agreed with you 10 years ago. In 2025, any American who is not already fighting (and I mean fighting, not “protesting”) MAGA is my enemy. Try us.
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Grow up. These things happen in stages, and we aren't at the violence stage yet. We owe it to ourselves, and the world, to try our hardest to resolve this existential problem with every other option we have before getting to the violence. Hopefully, we can avoid it all together. An American Civil War would have ripple effects that will have negative repercussions on the rest of the world, and being right next door means it will be worse for you than anyone else.
And you need to understand the same far right attack on America by global fascist forces is also happening in Europe, Central and South America, Australia, Asia, and CANADA. They came after America first, so we won't be there to protect other nations, but once they have us under control, YOU are next. You don't want to alienate those who will be your closest allies when the Nazis come for you.
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Your comment was clearly meant for the US in, like, 2004. Not sure how it found its way here.
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Every Soldier in the Wehrmact who was in Allied territory, was an enemy, regardless of his opinion of Hitler and the party
Every Soldier in the Russian Army, or shitbag Mercenary who is in Ukraine, is an enemy, regardless of their opinion of Putin and Russkiy Mir
Any American who decides to just go along with orders of an invasion of an allied country , will be treated as such. An illegal occupant, an enemy combatant, a legitimate target.
No matter how anyone wants to spin it. Soldiers have options, they may be thrown in the brig for insubordination, they may be forced to frag their officer and go AWOL. But choosing to just go along with your orders, Illegal or otherwise, is complicit guilt in the crime.
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I'm not talking about an invading army. By all means, you should treat them with as much lethal force as you can muster. But the vast majority of Americans are as against that invading army as you are. Any American soldier who does not respond to orders to invade by defecting, is considered a MAGA traitor, and is fair game, by both Canada and American Patriots.
"Just following orders" is never a justification. Following illegal orders is illegal.
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I hear ya, and mean this with all due respect and just as a counterpoint.
I think the world, and especially Canada, aren’t wrong to expect Americans as a whole to not let it get to that point - democratically, seriously. We have been, happily and willingly, consuming an entire culture of freedom and defence against tyranny. Your news is our news, including all of the violence and rationalization of it - defence of freedom.
We know your massive protests and hard won civil rights because your media is our media just like your products are our bilateral lifelines.
If it gets to the point of invasion I think it’s fair to consider all of America having stabbed us in the back.
Edit: just to try and be lighter about it - it’s like we all took in your movies and books and documentaries but America themselves in a staggering ratio seem to have missed the point or identified the wrong protagonist.
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If it gets to the point of invasion I think it’s fair to consider all of America having stabbed us in the back.
Please rethink that. MAGA represents a small and shrinking number of Americans. Many millions of us voted against them, and yet they used their nefarious resources to rig the election and take power. We have been stabbed in the back as much as you would be.
If the MAGA Nazis decide to invade Canada, you can double your forces by calling on the Patriotic Americans who want the Nazis out as much as you do.
AMERICA is not your enemy, MAGA is. Please remember that, we are on YOUR side, and want to assist you in defeating MAGA. If it comes down to an invasion of Canada, MAGA will have an Army, and Canada will have an Army, and the American Patriots will have motivated fighters who will enthusiastically assist the Canadian army to defend your sovereignty, and we are spread all over America. Make use of that valuable resource, and your defeat of MAGA will be much easier.
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Yes, I was thinking a lot of us would be valuable in guerilla warfare. Which side would be taken by individuals depends on the individuals.
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Guerilla warfare has been extremely effective against the US military for decades.
There are also a LOT of people still working within the government who do not support their current leadership. They can't ALL be replaced by loyalists, and with every replacement they get weaker, and the Resistance gains another experienced insider.
Resistance Guerillas don't all have to carry guns and be fighters. Those disgruntled federal employees are perfectly placed to cause all sorts of chaos, leaks, sabotage, weaponized incompetence, malicious compliance, etc. They will be as important to the fight as those willing to commit violence.
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We're waiting with bated breath.
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We are, too. The tipping point is coming, but it is always impossible to predict how or when that will happen. But make no mistake, it WILL happen.
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Just the South, and they have been the enemy of humanity for centuries, because they care far less about America than they do about their own racism, so much so that they went to war with America in the name of racism.
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Except those of us stuck here with no means of escape.
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I'm sorry, it is unimaginable to be stuck there.
But the filth is no longer contained, it is destroying even the best parts of America and threatening to destroy the world.
This is now a question of self-preservation.
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Ignorance and authoritarian sympathies aren't drawn on an east west or north south basis anymore.
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No, but they originated from the South.
I grew up in a lovely midwestern town, then nafta ended and the vile filth infested us and brought their crime and drugs with them, my town became a nightmare in 2 years.
The rest of the country didn't want slavery, they didn't want Jim Crow, they didn't try to elect segregationists.
Our evil was very, VERY centralized, and it was our mistake for not dealing with them properly after the civil war and preventing their pestilence from spreading.
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No, but they originated from the South.
FFS, how do you think Jim Crow ended?
If Southern anti-segregationists and civil rights groups had not stood firm against discrimination, Jim Crow would have never ended.
"Southerners" is not a synonym for ex-slaveowners and segregationists. Denigrating the entirety of the South for the actions of a few is gross.
Also, your remarks have lead me to believe that you seem to think racism simply never existed in the North, which is just an entirely laughable concept.
Some of the most violent resistance to the civil rights movement, was in Chicago, a lovely Midwestern town as you might put it.
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If Southern anti-segregationists and civil rights groups had not stood firm against discrimination, Jim Crow would have never ended.
Please, the south stood firm for discrimination, they stood so firm the south switched parties en masse in reaction to civil rights.
Just like 100 years earlier the south had to be drug to decency at gunpoint.
Also, your remarks have lead me to believe that you seem to think racism simply never existed in the North, which is just an entirely laughable concept.
I am brown, and partly grew up in the south, and Midwest, and the coasts.
PLEASE!!!!! Lecture me on how racism is equal everywhere and not just massively and brutally expressed in the south.
I am DYING to hear how my experiences were all a lie.
Many of us have reason to hate the south, just like I'm sure a lot of Jews had bad feelings about the nazis.
And the nazis actually copied many of their policies from the south verbatim, particularly the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow.
If the south had a single grain of decency and shame within them, they'd spontaneously combust, lucky for them they don't.
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A geographical region is not uniform in it's beliefs. You can dislike an area without claiming everyone who lives there is evil.
It is idiotic (and fascistic) to say that the ENTIRE population of an ENTIRE geographic region are ALL demons. It's simply not true.
If you grew up in the south, you are literally self-deprecating by saying such things.
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'We can't be mad at nazis because there might be some good ones.'
I think Putin used that line about Russians when he invaded Ukraine too.
I escaped the south, and it was incredible, like fleeing Somalia, many others did the same.
That's the problem, you see, all the decent humans are desperate to leave and the ones who do are happy.
Which just evolves the south further and further down into its own shit.
I don't care if there is a minority of decent southerners, just like I don't care if there were decent officers in the wehrmacht while the SS battalions rounded up jews for the ovens.
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like fleeing Somalia, many others did the same.
Those with the ability and money can leave, but some don't have these things. So what about them? Does that make them evil?
I don't care if there is a minority of decent southerners, just like I don't care if there were decent officers in the wehrmacht
Because a fisherman who happens to live where they were born, is the same as soldier who chose to join an army with very explicit political goals.
Nonsense.
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All I'll say is I'll be watching where fire bans are in effect if it ever comes to that.
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I love the energy. But if you're gonna compare Canada to Vietnam I have to point out the obvious geographic and climate differences; along with its proximity and distance from the US.
Get nukes Canada. Seriously, how do you guys not have fucking nukes?
You might consider being the Cuba/USSR with China of this generation. Not even kidding.
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