Trump: Elon Musk Has Done a Great Job
During this week's broadcast of Fox News Channel's "Sunday Morning Futures," President Donald Trump dismissed naysayers who claimed friction between him and Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) head Elon Musk. | Clips
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Serious question - Do you think DOGE has been a net positive?
In my personal opinion, yes.
In all seriousness, can you elaborate? I'm genuinely curious.
In all seriousness, can you elaborate? I’m genuinely curious.
Nah. I've seen the witchhunts that Lemmy relishes. No offense to you though!
But people will legit screenshot pieces of my conversations and follow me to other posts and other communities. Then they post those screenshots, out of context, and yell variations of "Don't listen to him. He's a troll! See?! See?!" Even in non-political posts and discussions.
I've seen it happen over and over.
So I just don't get that detailed anymore. Not that I will ever be run off of Lemmy, but I just won't get into deep detailed conversations. Which I'm totally fine with. :)
I like Trump. I've said that many times. I realize that many on Lemmy disagree. But this is a conservative community we're in right now.
That’s weird, because prior to the election, you were a socialist shilling for Stein.
I never even posted prior to the election. I've never been a socialist. I never shilled for Stein. Feel free to look up my post history.
But we both know what you’re doing.
Apparently not, since I have no idea what you're talking about. This is a conservative news community, I posted a conservative news article. As per the guideline of the community.
What you are saying has nothing to do with me or the article.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. If you're uncomfortable giving your opinion I can give mine and see if we have any middle ground. From my perspective, DOGE is an attempt to repeat what was done to Twitter on a much larger scale. The U.S economy is crashing hard as a result. I'm legitimately concerned the damage DOGE has done to the U.S government will be permanent. The cutting of research and government programs at this level will have lasting impacts that will reduce the quality of life of Americans for generations. I can elaborate further if you want. I understand others gut reactions to down vote your comments and your posts when they disagree but this is a conservative community. I'm clearly not conservative but respect that people have other political views. Perhaps I'm an optimist but I think if platforms like Lemmy don't allow those on the other side of political spectrum to have conversations then it pushes people into their own echo chambers further polarizing the individual. I hope you feel more comfortable to share your personal opinion on what is happening in future. Given how extreme it is, I think its necessary to really understand what is happening.
OP is one of the most prolific posters here, operating several accounts and sometimes posting 50+ times a day.
His salient trait is that he wants to control the narrative by queue flooding but claim “it’s just an article, I didn’t write it and have no opinion”.
The reason he feels attacked is because he made an absolute ass of himself and his inauthentic behavior became very obvious and got called out over and over again (this is when he was a staunch Socialist supporting Jill Stein)
I guess I didn't realize that he floods these communities....
I was just struck by a conservation I had with a family member recently that made me want to start commenting on these communities. I was telling the family member about Lemmy/Mastodon and urged them to join but they said their "crowd" was on X. I did realize certain articles posted to conservative communities get down voted to oblivion while the same article on a news community will get hundreds of up votes.
I want the fediverse to be open to all even those with differing opinions...
What makes you think OP is operating several accounts? Why flood such dead communities?
This isn't about having a different opinion though, if that were the case then the people who hold these "opinions" could at least occasionally back them up with a reason, or some ideological framework from which these opinions are produced. But there never seems to be any actual reasoning behind these various opinions. The card says moops
I don't write the articles and there is no Lemmy rule that I have to "back up" something just because I post a link to an article.
I wasn't talking about you specifically, but you're absolutely right, you don't have to justify anything.
At the same time, there is no lemmy rule that people can't ask you why did you post this article? Do you agree/disagree? Is this your opinion and if so how do you come to that conclusion?
And if you can't or won't answer, if you don't discuss topics you bring up in a discussion area, then people are going to conclude you're not actually here to "express your opinion", but for some other reason.
I wasn’t talking about you specifically,
Ahh, ok, my apologies.
At the same time, there is no lemmy rule that people can’t ask you why did you post this article?
Of course people can ask. Just don't expect it. Because there are many many people that post articles who don't discuss them at all.
And if you can’t or won’t answer, if you don’t discuss topics you bring up in a discussion area, then people are going to conclude you’re not actually here to “express your opinion”, but for some other reason.
This is a conservative news community, for conservative news articles. Please read the sidebar.
His interaction and writing style is easy to recognize, under a previous username he boasted about having dozens of accounts and using them to flood/control narratives, and he posts literally identical links seconds apart under different accounts - easy to correlate.
So if I am understanding your logic correctly you believe this is the same guy behind this account as "many others". And your proof is that they have the same writing style?
I'm sorry but I don't think that's gonna hold up in a court of law. Good luck with that lmao.
Thank you! I was reading that posters comments and was just scratching my head trying to find out what I posted that they misunderstood. I felt like I was watching them have a totally different conversation than what I was seeing in the thread. So I don't know if they are talking about posts on here that I can't see because of blocking or whatever.
But yikes. What the heck? Same writing style? What does that even mean? lol
They said multiple accounts with exact same links, but when I posted the article here, there was no mention that it's has been posted here before, so I'm totally confused. lol Are there multiple copies of the same articles here by different posters?! I'm not seeing that. Maybe I have some instance blocked or something?
What are you talking about?! None of that is true.
You need to stop taking Lemmy so seriously.
And why are you even in a conservative community if you are so against me posting stuff here?!
If you keep accusing me of having multiple accounts, I'll start to report your posts. You are off topic and should be discussing the articles.
And for the record, even tho I DON'T have multiple accounts, there is nothing on Lemmy that says it's against the rules to have as many accounts as you want.
What a loser.
They also harass via PM.
What?! Do you have proof of this? At all? No. Because I have never harrassed over PM nor have I even sent a PM on Lemmy.
Please post any proof you have on this.
I guess I didn’t realize that he floods these communities…
I don't. And that posters crazed response was what I'm talking about. Many posters on Lemmy get so enraged coming across a different political opinion that they start pointing the finger and anyone who disagrees with them and makes up some grand conspiracy of vast spy operations, multiple accounts, bots, etc. It's fucking weird! lmao
Feel free to look at my post history. It's public. I don't post 50 times a day. I legit have no idea what that poster is going on about. It's great that they proved my example to you about people like that though. Now you know...lol
I did realize certain articles posted to conservative communities get down voted to oblivion while the same article on a news community will get hundreds of up votes.
Yep. I have been banned from communities just because I post in this community. I've had science articles from AP News downvoted simply because they look at my post history and see that I have posted links to conservative articles. It's crazy.
But don't let that turn you off of Lemmy. I love Lemmy and I'll never leave. But many here can be um, pretty passionate, about things and actually stalk your posts. lol
What makes you think OP is operating several accounts? Why flood such dead communities?
I asked that poster the same thing. Not only that, but I'm posting conservatie articles to conservative communties. How is that "flooding" Lemmy?!
Not only that, you can just "block" a community and you'll never see the posts there. So why doesn't that poster just block conservative communities?! I've never posted my articles to a community that didn't fit the communities theme/guidelines.
Again, don't let postes like that turn you off of Lemmy. You can also just block individual posters and never see their posts as well.
The only way people like that are seeing my articles is by purposely not blocking me or conservative-themed communities.
They seem to like to be upset. Very strange.
OP is one of the most prolific posters here, operating several accounts and sometimes posting 50+ times a day.
What? This is my only account. And I don't post 50 times a day. Feel free to check my post history.
The reason he feels attacked is because he made an absolute ass of himself and his inauthentic behavior became very obvious and got called out over and over again (this is when he was a staunch Socialist supporting Jill Stein)
I'm not feeling attacked at all. What is going on with you? What are you even talking about? I've never made an ass of myself and I stand by everything I've said on Lemmy.
I'm also not a socialist and I don't support Jill Stein. You sound like someone who's having a stroke.
Was that comment meant for me?! Because nothing you are saying has anything to do with me. What "inauthentic behavior" are you talking about???
You're actually proving my point about Lemmy posters who take things too seriously, get obsessed, and go around accusing others and trying to cancel anyone who doesn't agree with them.
So thank you for showing the poster EXACTLY what I was talking about.
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Is this Barry Goldwater or Donald J Musk?
It’s both.
There have been lots of new comments since you posted. Please refresh the thread and you will see exactly what I was talking about. This thread is a mess of negativity now! lol
Meh, if what he is doing is so bad, and enough people think that, then in four years vote in a dem who can change it all back.
I get what you're saying but at the same time, it is much easier to tear things down then build them up. If you fire everyone that manages social security for example, it will be very difficult/costly to train up all new people. This isn't some policy that can just be reversed and that's the end of it. I'll reiterate, I truly think think the damage being done will lower the standard of living for Americans for generations to come and that really saddens me.
If you fire everyone that manages social security for example, it will be very difficult/costly to train up all new people.
I'm sure they can be trained pretty quickly. Just like any job that has to hire new people.
I’ll reiterate, I truly think think the damage being done will lower the standard of living for Americans for generations to come and that really saddens me.
And I disagree.
You don’t think cutting social security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans benefits and other social safety nets won’t harm Americans? How exactly do you think it will make things better or stay the same?
Firing 100k-200k federal jobs will have trickle down effects like Reagan could only dream of.
How is selling government property going to help anyone? We already have an over abundance of office space, now we are going to dump more sqft into the market? What will that do to prices of commercial property?
How will anything doge is doing HELP you?
Well if it's so terrible, then you can fix it in four years if a Democrat wins, right?
No. It will take decades to get back to where we were just a few months ago. And you know how that will go, we get mayyyybe 8 years, all 8 will be progress. Economy will start to correct….. then inevitably republicans convince rednecks to vote against their interests again. And bam “everything the last guy did I’m going to undo”
It’s the only playbook conservatives have had since Obama broke their brains. Not one single real policy. Only “undo those laws and take us back 8 years”.
8 years during Obama “we will end Obamacare”….. they didn’t. (Still just a concept of a plan)
4 years under Biden “omg the spending!!!!”……. Conservatives increased it. They are undoing infrastructure (we all agree we need). They are undoing veterans PACT ACT (we all agree we need).
You’ll never answer, but what have they introduced that would make anything in your life better? What ideas do they have other than “ew I hate the democrats. Let’s pretend the last administration didn’t exists.”
So I just don't get that detailed anymore.
Translation: “ i’m here to own the libs!!1!1!1!”
I look forward to you and yours suffering with the rest of us serfs 👍
I look forward to you and yours suffering with the rest of us serfs 👍
How would I suffer? And why would you look forward to someone suffering?! Say what?!
I'm not suffering at all though.
You’re not suffering … yet.
Let’s get real bro. You’re not a millionaire, and you’re certainly not a billionaire. You’re here trolling on an essentially microscopic social platform because you have nothing to do.
I'm having the best time of my life since the election happened.
We will see how you feel once mom’s medicare and social security are gone, and you’re forced to find a living space of your own.
How would I suffer?
Your Social Security and Medicare benefits are pretty certainly not going to be there for you in 10-30 years when you hope to retire. Just like mine and everyone else.
You’ll be paying more for everything - just like everyone else.
And why would you look forward to someone suffering?! Say what?!
because you’re the sort of asshole to vote MAGA for the meme, bro. it’s not that hard to understand.
you’re just as fucked as the rest of us serfs.
ou’re here trolling on an essentially microscopic social platform because you have nothing to do.
I'm not trolling though. **This is a conservative news community and I posted a link to a conservative news article. **
And you are here talking to me, so does that mean you have nothing to do?
We will see how you feel once mom’s medicare and social security are gone, and you’re forced to find a living space of your own.
What?! Was your message meant for me or someone else? I'm older than your grandparents.
because you’re the sort of asshole to vote MAGA for the meme, bro. it’s not that hard to understand.
Why the namecalling? I haven't called you any names. This is a conservative news community. I posted a link to a conservative news article. It's what this community is designed for. I don't understand your hostility.
Please read the sidebar for what this community is about.
I'm not trolling though.
mmhmm. sure jan.
so does that mean you have nothing to do?
i have just as much to do as you
I'm older than your grandparents.
No, you are not.
Why the namecalling?
becuase you need to hear it “grandpa”
I haven't called you any names.
what, are you some kind of snowflake? not very alpha of you to get all bent out of shape here “grandpa”.
This is a conservative news community. I posted a link to a conservative news article. It's what this community is designed for. I don't understand your hostility. Please read the sidebar for what this community is about
cry some more 👍
mmhmm. sure jan.
How can I be trolling if I am posting a conservative news article to a conservative news community?
becuase you need to hear it “grandpa”
So now ageism. Ok, classy.
what, are you some kind of snowflake? not very alpha of you to get all bent out of shape here “grandpa”.
Alpha? What?! What are you going on about? I don't even know why you're mad. I haven't done anything to you. If you're not a conservative, and conservative articles annoy you, then why are you here? I don't get it.
I haven't called you names or even interacted with you and you are going on these angry rants against me. I don't even know what your issues with me are.
This is a conservative news community. I posted conservative news. That's it. How is any of that trolling?!
Lmao get outta here
