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If someone is in prison for it, it means they commited a crime.

Are we on a communist board mostly populated by Americans where you are saying that everyone in prison is actually guilty of what they were convicted of? I'm not saying it's that common for people to be falsely accused of CSA (I have no idea), but people get put in prison for terrible crimes that they didn't commit all the time.

But those people in prison deserve to be there. Never forget that.

It's better for people to be rehabilitated and contribute constructively to society. There is no "deserving" punishment. Either they need to be put away for the time being for the common good, or you're literally just torturing someone.

IMO the punishment for the crimes those people committed should be execution. Chemical castration is way too merciful.

Never mind, you're just being a retributive sicko. I won't speculate on your root motivation for saying it (every possibility that I can think of is pretty rude to suggest) but you're just advocating for complete barbarism in a way that's divorced from any serious path to make society better. Just "kill the baddies."

Wait, there are people on here who actually believe this?

There's a difference between "This is a woman who I am attracted to, and she has x and y features that you could call neotenous if you really wanted to" vs "I specifically have a sexual attraction to more neotenous women"

I don't see why anyone would "choose" to be a pedophile

It is worth noting that there are people who don't seem to have the mental illness (nor are victims of CSA) but seem to like it as a power thing, ranging from weebs to soldiers.

But you are right there are people who just have the mental illness, are revolted at the idea of hurting children, and desperately need help that doesn't impugn on their character for something that isn't their fault.

Literally what about the KR was "Marxist"? You can argue that they were socialist in the crassest, broadest sense, but nothing about their project is Marxist specifically that I've ever heard of, and all of what I've heard (e.g. glasses) is anti-Marxist.

Now granted, I think Deng was probably right that the number of people the KR killed gets exaggerated significantly (people say 25% of the population, which is absurd), but the people they killed were still mostly Cambodian civilians and they would have been happy to kill more than they are accused of if they viably could kill more civilians than they already did and were given some excuse by their doctrines (e.g. glasses).

At least, this is my understanding of the matter. I'm happy to be corrected (except on them being Marxist, because I'm pretty confident that they weren't).

The Giver is about communism? I thought it was just teen dystopian dreck with no political relevance like Divergent or Maze Runner or whatever. Granted, I have read none of the three.

When people make it very clear that they are your enemies and also make it clear which of their own enemies they are most afraid of, that is a very good argument for joining the second group.

I'm sorry you had to go through that, but it's so funny to do McCarthyism on kids in a Catholic school, especially when there aren't any communists.

"Wow, what happened?"

This genuinely made my day

A third party that is even more hostile to workers while creating no basis for a fourth party to be viable is not cool and good.

I think the DPRK already accepts USD for tourism, but even if it didn't the answer to your question would probably be yes.

We should keep them closed after that, but they should still remain closed until then too

The drama isn't from 12 year olds, it's from the abusers who think teaching kids these things is a good idea.

In my defense, I used it one time a long time ago and it deleted everything but maintained my account, I guess due to a glitch.

I think you're making a very dangerous conflation here. Yes, there are lazy assholes on the board who like punching down at miserable mentally ill people because ultimately the board is full of shitty people to only a slightly lesser degree than most places, and they fucking love being given permission to designate someone as subhuman if that designated subhuman doesn't have a visible identity they can whip out to say they're one of the good guys because they're also socially minoritized. This leads to attacking a lot of mentally ill people, but woke.

However

"Incel" does not mean miserable loner with mental illness. There are a lot of miserable loners with mental illness who are not incels, and I know that because I'm one of them and have spent many years as one, but I've never called myself an "incel," I don't spend my time on internet boards with nazis ranting about why women should be slaves, as I said before, there's a difference between having a rough time with being mentally ill and unloved and making a political project of hating women and seeking their terror and subjugation.

While it is totally within your capability to stop making this conflation, I don't think it started with you nearly as much as it started with people masking their antisocial attitude towards, uh, let's call them sad virgins by couching it in terms of rightful criticism of the politically heinous project of incels, the way that some "socialists" love going "white women be like" because they want to say "women be like." They just phrase it differently to make their disgusting attitudes palatable to certain other self-styled progressives. My guess (I apologize for using italics to much here) is that you at least intuited this pattern of behavior but just drew a poor conclusion from it by letting those "fake woke" assholes convince you that you and incels have common cause when that could not be farther from the truth.

[In reference to some of your other comments] I've known guys like you who let the not getting laid thing develop into an obsession and have had such an obsession myself a long time ago. I can't really help you with that, I couldn't help the other guys and I myself only really understood how ridiculous that attitude is after I spent some time in a relationship, so I didn't really need to outgrow it. I'm lonely again now and have been for years, but my experience tells me that fucking wouldn't somehow make me whole and it's not worth obsessing over. I can't transmit that to you, so basically there's just the drop in the bucket as my anecdotal evidence.

I think very few people on this board are going to engage with you constructively on this, so if their being gross is intolerable to you, it's probably not good to keep complaining to them because you're just an other to them. Some people can engage on this and I see one or two have though (e.g. the person who explained the significance of the fact that most people don't like ER).

Edit: I should say that there's also a lot of rightful incel-bashing that doesn't make the conflation that I mentioned, it's just that it can be misconstrued that way if you have already bought into "incel" being a codeword for "miserable loner with mental illness".

I think there's an option in profile settings for deleting everything in the account but the account stays, and incidentally deleting the account doesn't delete the information.

The DNC is a private organization, it can't be taken over on a basis that is against the wishes of the owners short of first controlling the government, which won't happen. There is no taking over the Democratic Party except as successors in their disgusting project. It's good that we have people like Mamdani trying to help people, but what makes him useful is just as much the demonstration that the party is a dead end.

I'm not talking about them being or not being communists, and don't give me the "Masses, Elites, and Rebels" lecture. There are lots of other "slipped through the cracks" losers out there who aren't incels, so many that it feels like our society is more crack than surface, and we can quip about there being commonality between incel ideology and liberal ideology, but most of those losers still aren't incels, they still don't make a political project of being hostile to women or anything like that.

Part of that is, if you care about words having meanings, most people aren't chuds, and even among men it's at least contested enough that it's not "the basic mode of living" in most social contexts. As much as we can draw cute connections, the only time you see someone on CNN saying we should repeal the 19th Amendment is if they are wheeling out some internet crank, and the people on CSPAN who do believe it mostly keep it to themselves.

It was a dumb question, but you're failing to answer it because none of this explains why they are chuds if they "don't want to be." I'm an isolated, mentally ill loser who fell through the cracks, but I'd sooner die than join the incels.

Thank you for the sources