froztbyte @ froztbyte @awful.systems

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fuck off with the unrequested advertising kthx

it’s really good as a learning tool as long as you don’t blindly believe everything it says given you can ask stuff in natural language

the poster: "it's really good as a learning tool"

the poster: "but don't blindly believe it"

the learner: "how should I know when to believe it?"

the poster: "check everything"

the learner: "so you're saying I should just read the actual documentation and/or source?"

the poster: "how are you going to ask that anything? how can you fondle something that isn't a prompt?!"

the learner: "thanks for your time, I think I'm going to find another class"

same here, but I’ll pop the link to some euros I know

yep, I came up with promptfans (as a reference for describing all the weirdos who do free PR and hype work for this shit), and then @skillsissuer came up with promptfondlers for describing those that do this kind of bullshit

(and promptfuckers has become to collective noun I think of for all of them)

sounds like you figured out the referenced problem for yourself already

yeah someone elsewhere on awful linked issue a few days ago, and throughout many of his posts he pulls that kind of stunt the moment he gets called on his shit

he also wrote a 21.KiB screed very huffily saying one of the projects’ CoC has failed him

long may his PRs fail

you may find, on actually going through the linked post/video, that this is in fact mentioned in there already

wow imagine needing to understand the code you’re dealing with and not just copypasting a bunch of shit around

reading documentation and source code must be an excruciating amount of exercise for your poor brain - it has to even do something! poor thing

this is actually the correct case - it is both written about (prabhakar raghavan, look him up), and the exact mechanics of how they did it were detailed in documents surfaced in one of the lawsuits that google recently lost (the ones that found they them to be a monopoly)

autoplag isn’t bad when supervised by a human

even when I supervise it, it’s bad

my god you people are a whole kind of poster and it fucking shows

that's fair - the first half of my post was certainly more about me than anything (but was also an indication as to why I don't hear that particular angle much - I've also ensured I get as little as possible advertising in my life)

other part: nah still, fuck schneier

rest of your comment reminds me of the tact filters post (albeit in a different angle)

Ah, I don’t listen to riskybiz because ugh podcast

Schneier’s a dipshit well past his prime, though. people should stop listening to that ossified doorstop

I ended up doing a messy copypasta of the blog through wc -c: 21574

dude was so peeved at getting told no (after continually wasting other peoples' time and goodwill), he wrote a 21.5KiB screed just barely shy of full-on DARVO (and, frankly, I'm being lenient here only because of perspective (of how bad it could've been))

as Soyweiser also put it: a bit of a spelunk around the rest of his blog is also Quite Telling in what you may find

fuck this guy comprehensively, long may his commits be rejected

(e: oh I just saw Soyweiser also linked to that post, my bad)

his was my feeling a bit how it was used basically in security fields already

curious about this reference - wdym?

look, I'll do you the disfavour of giving you an actually detailed reply

you know exactly fucking nothing about me, about what I do, and about my competencies. if you did just a liiiiiiittle bit of work you might get an inkling, but: I know you didn't, and I know you don't.

that's not a judgement, that's just fact.

trying to flippantly rage at my derision of your shitty post.... I mean, points for effort? but.... be more interesting...? you're factory-line-identical outrage, and it's boring

para (2): sure, I made some inferred guesses. still don't think I'm wrong (and your little tagline ragefest there isn't helping, either)

paras (1) and (3): I lul. once again, if you knew anything about me...

but sure, go off queen. I'm sure your emanated bilge will be received with vim and verve.

mmmm, yes, being told what I don't know... oh yes, that's the stuff. best kind of thing to read after the kind of week I've had!

I was vacillating on reply harshness, but "hey tell me when you're home" ... some people just need to get better with informed consent.

(agree that this probably wasn't banworthy (yet), but close)

nah, there's definitely an actual something there - there's concrete actual physical extra silicon, with a design and a (marketing?) purpose

even better: opt-in, over opt-out

none of these fuckers want to go for that, because it'd make their darling shitpile look oh so bad

but it's also a stark thing: ~20y ago tech actually asked first, and (mostly) fucked off if you told it to

the way a lot of tech companies approach consent (and how users have been primed following that) right now is some mad toxic fucked up bullshit

"I work in IT" says the rando, rapaciously switching between support tickets in their web browser and their shadow-IT personal browser

"I've been having a lot of fun" continues the rando, in a picture-perfect replica of every other fucking promptfan posting the same selfish egoist bullshit

"So… I mean, I think it really depends on how it’s integrated and used" says thee fuckwit, who can't think two words beyond their own fucking nose