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YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • you got rookie numbers. i could have had tens of thousands.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • do you think the only way it can be non eugenics based is if they shared those same sentiments to every country in every language in equal proportion?

    yes

    edit: and the sentiment needs to be conveyed in a way that is equally weighted culturally and linguistically. which is to say there is no method, to my way of thinking, to advocate for antinatalism that is not eugenics.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • check 1995-1996

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • i'm saying abstaining from beef can't causally decrease ghge

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • the suggestion that you are a best in class mental gymnast isn’t a thought terminating cliche

    it is, and saying it isn't doesn't change that.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • by your rationale there would be no way to mention any activity without it being a suggestion that all current recipients must immediately perform said activity,

    they are advocating for a set of actions. not simply mentioning them.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Stating something is true with no supporting argument other than “I said so” followed by some shaky(at best) logic doesn’t leave much in the way of conversation points.

    that's not what happened. what i said were all truth claims. you can decide whether i was wrong about any of them (i'm not), but no argument at all is needed.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • no. i don't think that. but i think the propaganda they've produced can only have that effect.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • only people who speak english can read that comment. they are only talking to english-literate people.

    edit: ... english-literate people who are on lemmy.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • i'm not pro-natalist, but i am anti-anti-natalist, if there is any room for that.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Only a small subset of people who don’t have kids are antinatalists.

    i'm not talking about people who don't have kids. i'm talking about people who advocate for people not to have kids.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Environmentalism is the opposite of fascism

    ecofascism is a real phenomenon. there is a cure for political illiteracy.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Antinatalism is not eugenics.

    maybe not in and of itself, but any advocacy for it or policies enforcing endorsing or causing it surely are.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • this is a thought-terminating cliche. what i said is true.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Are you comparing that to a time that everyone stopped eating beef

    like the mid-90's mad cow scare?

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • in, as much as possible, a non-confrontational way, i'd love to hear why you think that.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • you are saying this in english, to a (self-)selected demographic subset of english speakers. you are encouraging a particular set of people not to have children. that's eugenics. unless you can find a way to convey this message to everyone, at once, in an identical message given cultural and other contexts, you will be biasing the message to be more effective among some segment of the populous.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • the graphic you posted comes from this article, which shows it is based on poore-nemecek 2018. i've detailed teh problems with this study in another top-level comment here, but, basically, it's not good science. i feel you're spreading misinformation.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • i regard all antinatalism as ecofascism. i'm not asking you to change my mind, i'm letting you know you might be participating in a eugenics campaign.