Cereal Nommer @ CerealNommer @ttrpg.network

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I mean, if we’re getting very strict about RAW revivify does target a creature^†, not the corpse of a creature. (Most DMs I know don’t make you hunt them down in the afterlife, or cast animate objects on their body first, but if we’re picking at technicalities I think I’m on solid footing.)

On the philosophical note, if your corpse doesn’t have the identity “you”, there’d be no way to raise “you” “yourself”. Though your objections to clone and planar ally counting as “raising yourself” are valid, but potentially debatable. I think it mostly comes down to how you define it.

The magic jar trick doesn’t rely on getting back into your body on the same turn, but even if it did, you could just push the jar off a shelf as a free interaction and break it to end the spell and return to your body. No Action Surge required.

I’m also well aware of how antimagic fields work, and (as with all aspects of the game) that it’s DM dependent. But online discussions that attempt to account for varying DM interpretations aren’t usually constructive, since some DMs can disagree about anything. I’m basing this position on the literal rules as written, and the interpretation of this very question by the official Sage Advice Compendium.

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However, many of the control effects depend on telepathy, which according to the Monster Manual, is explicitly magical. So I agree, antimagic fields could potentially suppress control with some methods of reanimation. Dispel magic is pretty nerfed in 5e though, and only spells or things that specify they’re affected by dispel magic are dispelled or suppressed.

^†Albeit with some qualifiers, but still a creature rather than an object. Which now that I’m considering it means I think the spell qualifies on a technicality for glyph of warding as well, but the “[…] it targets the creature that triggered the glyph.” clause might cause it to fail if you’re an object at the time it’s triggered.

The RAW rules actually allow you a myriad of ways to “raise yourself from the dead”.

• Clone is tailor made to raise yourself from the dead.
• An Arcana Cleric can cast contingency with revivify as the contingent spell. (There’s other ways to do this but they’re either more complicated or setting specific.)
• A wizard can can cast contingency with danse macabre as the contingent spell. (This’ll have a very limited duration.)
• Magic jar can let you possess another creature to animate your own body if something happens to it while you’re “away”.
• If you’re a humanoid, hitting yourself with a finger of death just before you’re about die can let you rise as a zombie permanently under your own control at the start of your next turn.
• Make a simulacrum of yourself to raise the original you at your leisure.
• Summon a planar ally to raise you if you die within an agreed upon time frame. (Probably requires bribery.)

The whole concept of liches is basically raising yourself from the dead.

Also of note; Most reanimation spells (animate dead, create undead, raise dead, etc…) are instantaneous and can’t be ended by an antimagic field or dispel magic. (The same can’t always be said for a creator’s control. The creature(s) these spells create usually don’t die/cease to be animated when the creator’s control ends either though.)

I imagine the contingency + danse macabre version, or a variant of this, is what /u/Ghost33313@kbin.social what thinking of, since it would break with loss of concentration.

The books are great too. Very different from the America reboot. The older British versions of the show are a lot closer to original Douglas Adams books.

A homebrew GLaDOS-esk villain could be cool.

I’ve been considering doing something with a rogue decaton. Maybe drop some rumors or hints that make it sound like a beholder amassing a construct army, only to reveal it’s a decaton with a bunch of pentadrone minons that never question why their boss has started drifting into LE territory with the orders lately.

It should fit pretty well. 😁 The audio matches the subtitles for all but one word.

This is from a show called Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency. This is an edited clip from the 2016 version.

Edit: I put together a brief clip of a scene more representative of the tone of the show, to give people an idea of what they’re actually in for if they go looking for it.

We got the map from the “Headmaster”. Anything in the font for most of the room labels (Dining Hall, Library, Private Chambers, etc…) were already there.

Any rooms or halls on the far side of a secret door and any labels in a smaller font were my annotations.

↑ Click to see how! ↑

Lorewise maruts are damn near incorruptable, but even just a rogue modron could be cool if done right. A marut is also unlikely to misinterpret the contract, but the signatories might have.

“[…] A marut enforces what is written, not what was meant by or supposed to be understood from the writing. The Kolyarut rejects contracts that contain vague, contradictory, or unenforceable terms. Beyond that, it doesn’t care whether both parties understand what they’re agreeing to.” There’s also a reason they’re called “nigh-unstoppable inevitables”.

I guess now that I think about it, a simulacrum is a construct as well, but I’d have a hard time counting one of them. Most powerful constructs tend to be golems or a colossus like the Walking Statues of Waterdeep, not independent thinkers, just powerful brute force minions.

The characters in the top panel are from a New Yorker cartoon. I think it’s supposed to be blushing?

I may have posted the original meme in a discord server somewhere, but I put it on imgur now so it’s available publicly. _{You may be able to see why the idea of a BBEG bard brought this to mind.}

Edit: Found where I originally put it on imgur. Huzzah, the history is preserved.

Yeah. This is the 4e version of the 1st floor map. The 5e version is only a small corner of this, but I exaggerated a bit for the meme.

Loving it so far. I haven’t had a good old fashioned dungeon crawl for quite some time. Megadungeon in 5e does throw me off occasionally, but we’re doing pretty well. Only one PC died so far, but the druid/cleric revivified him before it stuck.

I’m the party wizard/necromancer/note taker and sometimes I do make maps. ::: spoiler Heavy Spoilers for floor 9.

We are using Roll20, but it’s mostly due to distance between players. Part of the group that’s all near each other has another in person (Curse of Strahd) campaign going on about once a month.

I’m in the middle of the 5e version at the moment. We’re level 11 and have reached floor 9 so far. We started December 1st of 2022 and play at least once a week.

Otto already trademarked that one.