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Trump withdraws the U.S. from the United Nations Human Rights Council

www.npr.org /2025/02/03/nx-s1-5285696/trump-un-human-rights-council-withdrawal

The president's executive order also cuts future funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which provides aid to Palestinians.

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  • Interesting in that he's being allowed to essentially completely abandon the post WW2 international law order and institutions the west has used to get their way under the guise of impartiality. He's instead just saying why pay all this money, just use sanctions, and threats of invasion and violence and our hegemony over the international finance system to get our way instead directly without the pretenses and annoying mediating layers.

    And it is paying some results. Panama has bowed, left the belt and road, is going to be subject to further pressure probably to annul or modify their agreements with China on ownership of the two ports and the overpass they're constructing (wouldn't be surprised the US forces them to seize such property in future and deny China any benefit from it, theft is their MO).

    These are dangerous times filled with opportunity and risk.

    • This is what Democrat vs. Republican boils down to:

      Manners vs. no manners for the world hegemon. Do we get everything we want by saying please and thank you while we have a menacing club in our hand? Or do we just smash them with the club and take what we want.

    • what is China's plan if they can't even come to the defense of the countries that build economic partnerships with them? If the US can just come in and say "no more friendship with China", why even bother building Belt and Road? US propaganda can easily undo any good will China got from building infrastructure.

      • I've often wondered this myself. But in truth Panama is too close to the US for the Chinese to be able to do anything. I think the explanation is they're still buying time, trying to avoid a war with the US while they continue to build productive forces and consolidate for the next stage of socialist development. Even in a world say 5 years from now where China has a much more mature navy the task of fighting the US in Panama would be incredibly painful for them. I do think they'll need to draw a line when it comes to countries not behind the US island chain curtain of steel, for example in Asia. But it's a big question I've often asked. Which is what really is to stop the US from just continuing to destabilize west Asia (middle east) to prevent the B&R through there then in concert with that doing a kind of naval blockade using island chains to enforce strangling sanctions on China's economy and I'm not sure there is anything really.

        China is just hoping they don't have to resort to war because well the US is deranged, has used nukes in anger before, and on the back foot, just bad combinations. They hope things get bad enough that the US is forced to retreat, that BRICS rises enough the US can't bully them effectively without hurting themselves, and that will be the path forward.

        But it's a big question mark. The century will likely be decided by the attempts of the west to disrupt and destroy the BRI over the next 5-10 years and how effective they are. At the very least to the Chinese response and that of the rest of BRICS and how long they are willing to keep taking punches before daring to throw one back out.

      • 2 things: 1. coming "to the defense" would be crossing a line on that country's own sovereignty, or its own development/buildup of sovereignty. (China's not interested in the soviet model, and I think this has merit because we saw how areas propped up by soviets fell as the ussr waned and then collapsed.) building infrastructure doesnt mean unilateral alliance, it's a business transaction, albeit one that meaningfully materially strengthens the beneficiary country's ability towards economic development and sovereignty.

        2/ someone come correct me if I've got my understanding of how bonds work/macroeconomics/monetary policy/forex backwards but China owns a lot of US debt, and is actively shedding it. Used to be #1 foreign holder of US treasuries, now it's #2 (#1 currently Japan). In the past China bought US bonds using its trade surplus in dollars, which would basically recycle $ to continue to develop its own manufacturing and towards growing its own middle class+its own domestic market. Now that China's developed a pretty robust domestic market (eg doesnt need to rely on US to consume those produced goods and fuel economy), China doesn't need to put dollars back into that machine, but it still has a trade surplus in dollars. So financing other projects like those on BRI or among BRICS with those dollars is a solution to that problem (holding onto that surplus isn't economically sound..), and bonus points for building material foundations for dedollarization.

        someone else's analysis that's similar to my second point, and probably has a better understanding of that economics stuff: How China recycles its huge trade surplus with EU, US into BRICS infrastructure projects, risk-free

  • The order also cut future funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which provides aid to Palestinians. The Biden administration paused funding to UNRWA

    See tankiea! There absolutely is a difference between Democrats and Republicans on UNRWA.

    Democrats indefinitely pause funds while Republicans cut funds to zero

  • He is bought and paid for by the Israelis, it's so funny. He'll do whatever they ask him

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