Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week

Fuck the CCP
- Fuck the USA.
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- Oh, yet another debate pervert showing us their best points

Lots of suspicious comments in this thread. Seems like political astro-turfing has already arrived on Lemmy
- Unfortunately they're probably real people. Most of Lemmy was full of tankies before the reddit migration so any post involving China or Russia brings them out in force.
  
  It's like porn to them
  
  lemmygrads leaking, i guess
  
  Well, I must admit that things are starting to get interesting in the comments section.
- You mean the ones from hexbear aka lemmygrad-lite?
  
  Possibly, I didn't look where they're all from, nor do I know what hexbear is or why it's significant. Sounds like some kind of intra-Lemmy drama which I'm not too interested in. Just noticed a fair amount, lets say........not totally organic, seemingly agenda pushing comments.
  Edit: Forget my previous comment. I now see the problem with Hexbear.
- I know right! How come there are so, so many people defending China here? I thought they were the minority. Ugh. When I was back on Reddit comments like those would always be downvoted to hell.
  
  The issue is there are a much higher percentage here because brigading wasn't allowed on reddit so they'd be banned for this type of activity. They come here and can do what they want, which is fine as long as it doesn't hurt other people doing what they want, which in this case is arguably happening because it clutters the comments with the same thing repeated over and over, and they are organized so it's all up voted. This doesn't make them the majority opinion though. It makes them the organized opinion. They are not the majority by any means, but they will make sure to come to China's defence whenever it's mentioned, where others won't bother.
  
  Go back to watching your Fox News
- Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once. They act like what the far right imagines the left to be like, but just looks like really bad anti-leftist propaganda, or they're just tankies :/ some hexbears are ok, though, but most here are just discrediting themselves by throwing the propaganda handbook at the passersby.
  
  Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once
  Exactly this. They're running around spewing barely-sensical insults acting like they're dunking on people, but all their really doing is turning off anyone who was ever possibly sympathetic to their cause. And are completely un-informed on top of that
- China is the high-water mark of human governance!!
  
  Almost. Cuba is better but China's close behind.

This is the best summary I could come up with:
Taiwan, which China claims as its territory, has repeatedly complained of Chinese military activity near it over the past three years, as Beijing steps up pressure to try to force the island to accept its sovereignty.
Taiwan's defence ministry said that starting at around 9 a.m. (0100 GMT), it detected a total of 25 Chinese aircraft engaging in operations out at sea, including J-10 and J-16 fighters, as well as H-6 bombers.
The ADIZ is a broad area Taiwan monitors and patrols to give its forces more time to respond to threats, and Chinese aircraft have not entered territorial Taiwanese air space.
China staged war games around Taiwan in April after President Tsai Ing-wen returned home from a visit to the United States where she met U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
Taiwan Vice President William Lai leaves for the United States this week on his way to Paraguay on what is officially only a transit but which has angered China.
Taiwan's democratically elected government rejects China's sovereignty claim and says only the island's people can decide their future.
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- Dumb comment. Taiwan isn’t a country and they certainly aren’t a democracy
- It's matter of time before they anect it. Hopefully sooner than later.
  
  You mean annex? We should totally listen to someone who has that level of education...

lmao hexbear incels trying hard here
- They say they're not getting paid, and with arguments like theirs I actually believe them

Surprise surprise, Hexbear users came to brigade other instances exactly the way they said they would. Bad actors through and through.
- I thought they weren't even federated with anybody...at least I can't see their communities in the list.
- You are brigading as well. This isn’t your instance

Goddammit, I do NOT want us to be propping up a war in Ukraine and fighting an actual war with China.
- I wonder if we'd drop Ukraine if WWIII was starting. On the one hand, it's WWIII, on the other hand maybe Russia is still a likely enemy?
- Nobody wants to have to defend free and sovereign nations such as Ukraine and Taiwan from agressive expansionist foreign powers like China and Russia. But here we are.

They are just showing us what non-imperialism looks like

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Holy shit this thread is a good example of why Lemmy is quite far from mainstream still. The army form one instance is strong here, quite fascinating and amusing to read.
- Yeah what the fuck is going on here? The can't be legitimate users surely.

oh yeah, lots of internal economic pressure on the CCP as their property market comes CRASHING down.. Emperor Xi the Eternal needs a big distraction quick.. and he needs to be a bully, so that people think he's strong.. and bullying Taiwan is so easy for him..
what a big, brave, clever Winnie the Pooh

How can a country intrude into its own territory? These separatists need to be put in their places.
- Fuck the CCP.
  
  -Go back to your Fox News
  -Learn the proper names of things before attempting to engage about them because it only makes you appear foolish to use the wrong acronyms
- So let me get this straight, a group of people overwhelmingly wish to separate, and the government tries to prevent them from doing that, and you don't think that's imperialism? I bet you don't feel the same about separatism in Catalonia, Donbas, Kurdistan, or the Zapatistas. Classic tankie logic: imperialism good when done by purported "communists."
  
  Almost like the reason some of the population is because they stole from the Chinese people and fled to the island when the people fought back. The oppressor doesn’t deserve to get to pick to be independent
- It can't, so this must not be part of the PRC's territory! :)
  
  I bet you agree with the January 6th rioters too!

Weird. There’s a lot of anti China stories circulating this week. Like maybe they are trying to influence public opinion.
- China does thing
  News reports on thing China does
  SINOPHOBIA!!!
  
  There’s a big world with a lot of news. Why focus on China?
- haha yeah or maybe China is an imperialist military dictatorship.
  
  Imperialist??? I think the projection is coming from within the house (the white one)
- Don't do shitty things and there won't be coverage lmao
  
  Shitty things like... Flying within China's ADIZ that happens to overlap with Taiwan's ADIZ because Taiwan refuses to use the median line as their ADIZ boundary like China does?
- I find it more weird you brought that up honestly. News is News, post something else if you want more variety, nobody is stopping you.
  
  Ok, I will.
- Tankie says what?
  
  Hi, you should come back and look at the rest of the comments on this post. Apparently all of hexbear.net is pro-China
  
  Just so you know, when you insult someone like that without explanation. You push them away from your position. I will now make it my mission to learn everything I can about tankies to prove you wrong. 😃
- What do you think the truth is, bro?
  
  Capitalism and the neoliberalism that supports the aristocratic hierarchy funneling wealth from developing nations is destroying the world. But go ahead, focus on China while the housing crisis and inflation fuels fascism inside western countries destroying them from the inside.
- Go home tankie
  
  Sure, everyone that doesn’t agree with state department propaganda is a tankie. Why isn’t Sudan covered? Or Yemen? Or Ethiopia? Or Niger?
- China discovered that Lemmy exists and sent their bots here, it's so obvious! No thinking person would ever doubt Western media!!!111
  (Not saying that one empire is better than the other, yadda yadda)
  
  Yep, I’m a bot. Don’t think for myself at all. Just an NPC. How ‘bout we stop empiring?
- Reality is anti ch*na
  
  Your philosophical underpinnings are suspect.
- There's been both "China Best" and China being shady posts. We'll never know for sure in this age of fake information. Might be that they're trying to follow the Russia model.
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  Haha. You don’t even know what that means. Please, let’s discuss dialectic materialism for the masses. Revel in your ignorance.
- Or maybe its because china is china... lol
  Theres also more heat wave/clinate related news in the summer than in the spring