Arguments after dinner

this cartoon implies that liberal and progressive citizens are equally responsible for the lack of attention to the owner class, when they're the only ones criticizing and trying to rein in the 1% while at the same time trying to defend against incessant attacks on pretty much every part of their identity from the bleating moron maga lemmings
- Left and Right aren't a useful representation of a person's political beliefs. I don't think this cartoon is saying left and right are the same. I think it's saying that the billionaire class is using useful idiots to help separate the working class and keep them fighting amongst ourselves.
  Absolutely push back against what you see as harmful patterns and always support and defend the rights of others. If you hear someone dehumanizing immigrants or LGBTQA+ or any at risk population of course speak up.
  But also challenge the logic of that person. Ask them how they believe what they believe and who benefits. You're never going to reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into, but you can learn the bullshit talking points they're being fed to head off those effects for someone else.
  The only way we fight Fascism in this country will be to empower each other and engender support for anti fascist action. Build mutual aid in your community and be as involved as possible politically.
  mutualaidhub.org/
  
  Mutual Aid Hub is a beautiful project — absolutely an URL to be shared and saved, thank you.
- they’re the only ones criticizing and trying to rein in the 1%
  Progressives, maybe. But right after the Harris loss, I saw a flood of her liberal supporters deciding the LGBTQ caucus cost her the election.
  
  Me too, especially the T. The manipulation is so everpresent, some of us manipulate ourselves.
  
  As a transwoman nothing frightened me more than being told that the rise of fascism was my fault for existing, even though I did everything to get the vote out for Kamela
- Liberals don't want corporate tyranny and conservatives don't want government tyranny. How do we get people to realize they're the same thing?
- liberal
  trying to rein in the 1%
  Choose only one. Liberals are those that subscribe to capitalism. You cannot be against the bourgeois while being for capitalism. It is contradictory.
  
  You cannot ever get folks on our side using words like 'bourgeois'.
- This is verifiably false. Please connect with people before spewing misinformation about how you think they act.
  
  I don't think you can say that with any factual basis, as what you're replying to was a general sentiment and not a statement of fact. You're assuming a lot without asking for any clarification.
  You sound just as combative as the person you're replying to. I don't know if that was your purpose but your reply reads as dismissive and patronizing.
  
  It’s fascinating how many fancy words you just used to say “nuh-uh” to the reality in front of people lmao
  
  Which part is false? Honestly curious
  
  Seriously. These narrow-minded generalizations only serve the rich.

If these comments are any indicator, it’s working perfectly.
- Yep. Hard to admit our reactions are their manipulations. Everyone things everyone but them is the puppet.
  
  Just because it's a manipulation doesn't mean it's always avoidable, though. Like Lex Luthor manipulates Superman by putting Lois Lane's life in danger. Letting Lois die isn't typically a real option. He's got no choice but to play the game because he's a moral person.
  Are we supposed to just let LGBTQ people die so we can make inroads on the class war? I don't like it, but that's not a real option either.
  
  Man, I hear that, but also... sides were chosen, and it's pretty clear what type of person someone is based on that choice. Half of us can be manipulated AND be selfish cunts at the same time.
  Although I dislike that half and at times feel like fighting some of them, I would also still work with them to save ourselves from the ruling class if the opportunity were to arise.

Reminder: No one gave the slightest fuck about women's sports until the masses realized transpeople weren't just a "funny joke" in a 80's sex comedy.
- Women's basketball has exploded in the last few years, in large part because the NBA is finally seeing it as a money-maker on par with the men's pro-League. Same with women's soccer.
  A lot of this has to do with sports, as a broad category of entertainment, still producing the kind of returns that legacy media - movies, tv serials, live music - struggle to replicate. A lot more has to do with women as an "untapped" demographic for the sports media industry. And then the pivot to Streaming means you get extra value from a continuous fresh series of live events with relatively low production costs (just like with reality TV).
  I might argue that the trans-panic around women's sports is a direct consequence of this huge new effort to commodify the franchise. Trans-rights runs up against the specter of performance enhancing drugs in athletics, giving both state officials and league owners an excuse to aggressively regulate and censor their athletes.
  
  I hate how professional sports and for-profit prisons are just the way we pretend we don't enslave black men and make them compete in gladiatorial arenas for our amusement.
  
  Wait... "Performance enhancing drugs" was a sham?
- Found someone unfamiliar with the history of women's sports (knowledge of memes doesn't count).
  
  I admit I'm not, but I imagine it's rooted in misogyny like everything that involves women in this country because I am having a case of derealization and I now see the strings that are pulled to put on this nightmare puppet show. LET ME OUT OF THE MATRIX!

Ok, but one of those people will assault you if they think you're using the wrong bathroom.
- Only because they are a puppet, look at whose pulling the strings. (The right wing progaganda networks)
  
  “They can’t help it, only the 1% have agency” isn’t going to ring true with anyone who’s actually been assaulted for using the ‘wrong’ bathroom.
  
  Lemmy is small enough, and your moniker unique enough, I keep noticing your comments and nodding my head yes. If you're ever in Seattle, let's go bowling or something.
  
  Yes, but who's responsibility is that? Push this meme in the right wing circles. It's preaching to the choir here.

Insert one of the capitalist's useful idiots in every discussion basically saying "Well I have food, water, and shelter, so I think my X social issue must be addressed before everyone having food, water, and shelter... or you're a bigot!" derailing every discussion, as the owner class intends, often devolving into arguments of "we can do both/all" when under this economy, we can't do shit as the owners will keep using their bully pulpits in for profit media and captured government to actively keep us divided and hating one another instead of looking up. If you think you can do anything under that, you'll be waiting till your grave.
Class war informs all other wars. Those are all battles under the class war. This is class occupation, with the oligarchs literally owning conflicting networks claiming to be news, claiming their truth is the truth when it's merely yet another method of profiting off stoking poorie fights in the streets so we aren't a threat to them.

it's a perfect summary
and it's so obvious once you've seen it.

Fighting a culture war because of collective OCD or whatever keeps us from fighting a class war, but nobody's doing it on purpose. That's the weird thing - there's no agenda, just people behaving similarly because of similar fears, motivations and delusions.
I think somebody could probably figure out how to make Asimov's psychohistory a real science.
- Fighting a culture war because of collective OCD or whatever keeps us from fighting a class war, but nobody’s doing it on purpose.
  You've never seen Fox News?
  
  That "culture war" is also the class war. Trans homies won't be left behind.
  
  Of course. My dad was pretty much addicted to it. I think it's a pile of crap.