For those thinking of going back to reddit. Gaze upon this comment section and reconsider.

Love. This. Comment.
This have to be bot.
Edit: thanks for the gold, stranger!
Edit2: ohh god i hate you guys.
- Hell yeah!
  
  Fuck yesssss
  
  Of course!
- It's probably a whole set of bots and the responses to "this needs to be a coffee mug" are some other account saying "I found one!" and that's the whole point of the comment chain. Someone has a crappy mug to sell and constructs scenarios that seem natural ish to introduce it.
  
  There used to be a big issue on Tumblr years ago with bots trolling for comments like that and then stealing whatever picture that comment was on to sell crappy t-shirts of it or whatever. People started fighting back by posting those comments specifically on Disney stuff.
- My man!
  
  YTA
  
  Lookin' good!
  
  YES
- THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE 💯🎉‼️
  
  Today you. Tomorrow me.
  
  Mom's spaghetti.
- Have an upboat, kind stranger.
  
  Have an updoot!
- Happy cake day
- I know I shouldn't say this but this
- RIP your inbox?
- What. Do. You. Mean. Fellow. Lemmy. User. ?.
  Typing. Like. This. Is. Totally. Normal. L.M.A.O.
- This is absolutely correct!
- There are a lot of children on it these days too.
- Came here to say this!
- Thank you for this comment!
- Hell Yeah! (j/k)

That was cringe but I think a better reason NOT to return to reddit is the fact that they just sold out their users to an AI company that hasn't even been named.
- Could you imagine this is what we are training AI with !
  
  I can. Remember Tay?
  
  Lol yeah, other bot made data
  
  Yeah, all these bots replies is copied from other comment, and there's shit tons of r/confidentlyincorrect comment that is outright factually wrong, which then get regurgitated by other user and copied by bots, so good luck to the AI company filtering those.
- AFAIK, there’s nothing stopping any company from scraping Lemmy either. The whole point pf reddit limiting API usage was so they could make money like this.
  Outside of morals, there is nothing to stop anybody from training on data from Lemmy just like there’s nothing stopping me from using Wikipedia. Most conferences nowadays require a paragraph on ethics in the submission, but I and many of my colleagues would have no qualms saying we scraped our data from open source internet forums and blogs.
  
  You're right, anyone can scrape Lemmy. But that's not the issue (to me anyway) - Reddit have sold user data - user generated content. None of what they're profiting from was generated or created by them. Are Reddit users who did generate all this content getting a slice of the profits?
  When I post on here I know it's all open for anyone to access but that's true of any non walled garden space. I've accepted the fact that it's going to get fed into the hungry maw of some AI behemoth or two.
  What Reddit have done is make money for doing absolutely nothing based on content others have created like some sort of technological tapeworm feeding second hand. And along the way they killed off a lot of tools that users loved, moderators found made their jobs easier and people with a visual disability found vital. And all this so u/spez can live out his mini-Musk fantasies.
- Fuck Reddit, but why does this matter? Them selling internal analytics and profile information isn't going to be nearly as valuable as post/comment history which has already been public and scraped continuously since the site's foundings. Practically every LLM is already has already scraped the entire site! Whatever company is buying their info is probably the only ones doing it legitimately. You can also assume Lemmy is no different, it's all public and scrapable for LLMs to freely feast on.

I think the fewer number of people, compared to reddit, on Lemmy combined with the fact that it's not nearly as well known, plays a huge advantage to the quality of the comments. Not that there aren't people like that here either, but I feel like the more popular a platform, is, the more it gets filled, proportionally, with people trying to make witty, shitty, pointless remarks that are often clickkbaity and avoid actual discussion, all in the interest of just getting more imaginary points.
Also the process of "enshitification" (not a term I made up, look it up if you hadn't heard of it) has already started taking place on reddit due to its popularity.
- I'm part of the problem. 85.4% of my comments are shit posts only I think are funny.
  
  Hey, don't be like that. I am sure a lot of people find your shitposts funny.
  Not me. I looked.
  
  lol @ the exact percent
  But no, I don't think shitposts by themselves are actually the problem. I think the problem is when when there's so many people dedicated to making shitposts that serious communities with serious discussions start getting overwhelmed with shitposts, and when there's so many people who are only interested in shitposts that they upvote those shitposts to the top, often downvoting anyone who might offer a contrarian non-funny opinion.
  or IDK, I'm mostly speculating based on personal experience.
  
  It's not just you. There are dozens of us.
  
  At least there are dedicated spaces for that and most Lemmings are respecting that, if it doesn't spill out too much to more serious communities then at least there isn't too much noise to have a good discussion.
  
  Good for you .... the road to recovering from being a bot is to first admit it
  
  This should be a mug!
  
  I think your comments are good.
- I do hope that lemmy continues to grow into non-tech demographics. I'm somewhat into tech myself, but I also like a lot of other stuff and I miss that influence from reddit. Lemmy is VERY tech focused right now and we need some other voices in here.
- This. So. Much. This.
  
  Yes! If I had money for goldz, I'd give it to you. Please accept this 🥈in it's place.
- Also the process of "enshitification" has already started taking place on reddit due to its popularity.
  I started using reddit in 2011. Trust me when I say this isn't a new trend. Reddit's has been noticeably and actively getting shittier since at least 2015 as it continued to get more and more popular
  
  Shitty changes Reddit made that I can name off the top of my head:
  New Reddit
  Reddit Live
  Anything beyond Reddit gold (the concept of paying for Reddit gold was, by itself, not a terrible idea back when we thought Reddit was a decent company)
  Instant chat feature, when DMs already existed
  Pay for API
  Fired their only popular employee, the AMA assistant
  You could argue creating a comments section was also a dick move, but that was before my time and it's fair to say Reddit never would have caught on without it.
  They also populated the site with fake accounts in the early days to make it look more popular than it really was. I would be zero percent surprised to find out that they still had fake accounts floating around for purposes I don't feel like speculating about.
  Oh, and Spez edited people's comments.
- Reddits is end stage enshitification
  
  And now they're going to train AI on that dataset. The intellectual equivalent of a diet consisting of nothing but chicken nuggets.
- There's also a big issue of the sheer mass of comments in a post simply drowning out any chance of discussion because only the first few most upvoted ones will usually get seen, so people generally just respond to those to get any interaction on their comments. It's why the frontpage stuff is always so much worse than smaller subs - because by the time people see it, there's already 1,000+ comments there.
- Most of the people that would have made good comments on Reddit moved to Lemmy as well
- These have to be bots.
- I think this is a huge problem with democracy as well. The larger a country, the worse democracy works. Any apparatus of power or wealth attracts parasites only interested in exploiting it. And the larger the lever, the more profit from manipulating it. And the larger the potential gain the more investment costs can you justify.
  This isn't necessarily an argument for "states rights" or federation though, with "divide and conquer" strategies you can copy and paste the same strategy to multiple instances. If there is monetary gain to be had, there will always be an unrelenting force trying to exploit it.
  
  Eh, am from a country with 9mil people, and this society simply doesn't get democracy. So being smaller is hardly any indicator that democracy will work better.

All I see is cherry picking random dumb comment thread and trying to spin it as if it defines the whole use base / experience and thinking Lemmy is used by the most sophisticated intellectuals.
- This needs a coffee mug.
- Not to mention that amitheasshole is the biggest collection of validation seeking goobers on reddit. We really aren't better than redditors, we are the same people, we just have principles that led us to seek the same experience uncompromised elsewhere.
  
  Fuck yess I love it
- This just became my new favorite saying.
- IDK if Lemmy is sophisticated sophisticated, but I have yet to see a comment chain that is just top 40s song lyrics.
  
  We're no strangers to love....
  
  We just don't have the population for it
  
  I absolutely have seen that here. I'll have to see if I can track down the chain, of course i wasn't offended by it either.
  
  Pedantic and shallow
- It looks like Markov Chains to me
  
  Yeah my guess is that these are accounts currently being farmed. I actually bought a reddit account once and its history was full of this kind of stuff
- Hell yeah!
- Permanently Deleted
- found the contrarian in the comments who thinks he's NOT Brian griffin lol
- This just became my new favorite saying.

Only the best, the finest human-generated datasets. For the discerning AI trainer.
Welcome to Burger King! Can I take your order?
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Can I get a large-
Hell yeah!
-a large Whopper meal with-
Love. This. Order.
-with a side of barbecue sa-
this needs to be on a mug!
Heavy internal sigh
Sauce.
I approve, perfectly stated. That'll be $98.42, NTA, please pull around to the window to pay and have a yeet day!
- Sadly, this feels way too plausible for me to even laugh at.
  
  Yeah, I remember laughing about ridiculous things but now they are all coming true and negatively impacting people.
  
  I did anyway. :-P
  At some point, you either laugh or just cry.
- A self driving car pulls around .. window opens ... sign says to just throw the food inside ... auto pay through NFC on the door ... car drives away ... dumps food into a waiting auto trash compactor ... car drives away to next town to order food again ... AI powering the car generates another $10,000 worth of bitcoin to start the food ordering cycle again.
  
  Do.. do I insert a verification can now, or...?
- Fuck yesss love this
  
  Does it need to be on a mug?
- and have a yeet day!
  Right here officer, this is where they sinned against all of humanity!
- Preach 👏 it 👏 louder 👏
  (But like, for real, though.) I certainly don't feel bad for Reddit when the CEO says he intends to use that forum's users to train AIs, and then every comment turns into some "please upvote me" catchphrasey nonsense. Hopefully, whoever buys training data from them receives nothing of value.

It’s actually kind of crazy how like… stupid Reddit got over the past 2 years.
Like don’t get me wrong Lemmy isn’t exactly an intellectual powerhouse either, but especially on the front page of Reddit it truly feels like you’ve gathered a few thousand of the dumbest people ever and made them high five. Browsing the science and dataisbeautiful subs is insane
- I haven't been to Reddit r/popular in months but... yeah, all the best people got booted out. What is left are the scabs, and the bots. So it makes total sense.
  Before that, it was a different cause. Reddit itself drove a lot of it, imho, like actively making it easier to make a post while making it harder to read the rules of a community first, i.e. they promoted talking rather than listening. Oh, guess which one gives more ad revenue? Yeah, it's the former, plus more posts are better than more comments inside megathreads, especially at the time. Places like r/Android would just devolve into almost unusability as every post was just "which phone should I get?", despite that exact post being triplicated with practically an identical title already that very same day. The amount of human moderation required to keep that at least somewhat in check was insane, so ofc Reddit took away the ability of mods to use the tools they had developed over many years.
  And now? FAAFO, we are in the "find out" stage. Well, they are:-P.
  
  Oh absolutely. I was on Reddit a long time and you really did see when they started to “Astro turf” the website a lot. And it was never… nefarious imo. They realize the website was overwhelmingly geeky white guys so they sprung up a lot of subreddits targeting women and minority groups. And that’s good! I think that was a good move. But they just… kept finding ways of drawing people in. And they kept drawing more and more in until the website had essentially no “culture”, and it just became Facebook where you browse through and can read top posts about entitled old ladies talking about how fucking angry she is because her door dasher asked if there would be a tip or whatever.
  So yunno, I’m sure profits are at an all time high. It’s just kind of a shame that the site is basically Facebook sludge now.
- Oh data is beautiful died a very long time ago, during the age of "infographics", but the death knell was the bar plot races.
- I am enjoying lemmy, but is there an intellectual powerhouse anymore?
  and why is it Hacker news?
  
  is there an intellectual powerhouse anymore?
  https://tildes.net/ is a candidate. Though I like it better here for the memes and the music.
  
  Neither are intellectual powerhouses because collectively speaking ... humanity is not an intellectual powerhouse
  
  Hacker news works because it has a specific perspective. You basically just get the capitalist tech crowd and unapologetically so.
  It's not perfect, but I like that it's roughly apolitical (as in, free of world events, politics, and X slammed for Y articles). I understand that capitalist tech is inherently political, but it's not where to go to talk politics.
  
  For general purpose discussion? I don’t think so. The internet being so open and accessible means that the only ways to find more educated discussion on various topics is typically through more specialized websites (like Hacker news for computing), and even then it’s kind of a crap shoot.
- My subscriptions actually got better. I've had more interaction in my various groups.
  All and popular, however, are a dumpster fire.
- that's only if you subscribe to the most popular subs
  
  Ehhh.. kind of. Even more “mid range” interests are kind of co-opted and you need to do odd bends and twists to find good discussion. Subs like the chemistry subreddit are very obviously not made up of majority “chemists” (even student chemists), so you have to seek out the “chemistry professionals” subreddit which is more hidden to actually discuss the topic.
  That’s an example where there is a “good version”. For many topics, especially pop culture related and such, you might have one “main” sub, but then the “alternative” sub is just the racist one.
  Then you have things like dataisbeautiful which doesn’t really have an alternative and it’s all terrible despite the concept being good

Surprised the top reply wasn't "this"
- This
- Haha! Yes! So true! This! This right here! 😂😂😂

Fully believe a lot of these are bots. I refuse to believe that humans act like this at that magnitude
- Genuinely not sure which option is more frightening.
  
  Maybe they are dogs! Maybe they are robot dogs! You Don't KNOW!
  BTW it's less scary if you think most of these comments are written by morons. A "smart" bot comment (like an informative one) is still way better than a comment written by a human idiot.
- Or a single person with multiple accounts trying to build karma. This reads like the same ESL or a 12 year old wrote it.
- I. Love. This. Comment. NB: I am a human that is bipedal and omnivorous like many other humans on {undefined}.
- These low effort and low quality comments used to be the norm when reddit was new. Eventually the community kinda wised up a bit and realized that you don't need a "when does the narwhal bacon?" comment chain in every thread and heavily downvoted this sort of thing. Then the reverse happened and reddit become known for housing the internet's most insufferable know-it-alls, contrarians, and pedants. I think it kinda still has that reputation a little bit, but maybe the metaphorical boomerang is swinging back around again? Either that, or like you said, bot infestation.

We're no better here. Lemmy has its own brand of cringe.

I bet they are all bots
- Love. This. Comment.
  
  I bet they are all bots.
- Boop beep, i mean slay queen?
- I didn't realize how bad the bots were until I browsed while coming down from an acid trip.
  
  This needs a coffee mug

Love. This. Post.
- Fuck yess I love this
  
  So. Much. This.
- Play bitch games; win bitch prizes.
  
  bitch lasagna
- ⬆️ omg this guy ✅️✅️✅️
- I approve! Perfectly stated.
  I was going to post the same thing.

I have gone back a while ago. Some subs are bad but most I frequent are the same as before. I now use lemmy on my phone and reddit on the PC. At least on reddit the Linux cult doesnt try to convert you everytime you say the word windows.
- You might wanna consider Nobara tho. It's a Fedora spin but with all the codecs preinstalled.
  
  and please you have to stop using xorg. Xorg is terrible and makes puppies cry, stahp w/ it
  
  I'll consider it when it works on all the hardware Windows does.
- Have you heard of our lord and saviour Linus? You have to let Linux into your heart my child.
  
  Linus Sebastian rules
- Did you say windows!?
- wrong because you didn't mention arch Linux. and like, how it's a total rolling release you guise.
- Oh god why did you say it w-
- Windows, Chrome, Capitalism, and cars rule!

Play Reddit games, win Reddit prizes.
- Jokes on them, bots don’t buy mugs
- This needs a coffee mug

Give it some time, Lemmy will get there eventually.
- Seriously, I get early youtube/liveleak/internet vibes here on lemmy. Enjoy it while it last people, it won't be here forever.
  
  At least se can close communities/instances ¯(ツ)/¯
- I'm sad to know that you're probably right... Reddit was a fun place to discuss at one point in time.
  The fact that disgruntled Lemmy members can do-over in another server/set of servers... might... help counter this eventuality?
- I'm not sure, maybe Lemmy will never really become mainstream
- infinite monkey theorem smh?

These cannot be the comments of real people.
- This needs a coffee mug

Not much worse than people constantly evangelizing Linux, whining about cars, and all the other Lemmyisms that have seeped between instances.
- I'll take real engagement over bot traffic any day of the week
  
  This needs a coffee mug
  
  This is my new favorite phrase!
  
  ^ This!
  
  Love. This. Comment
  
  I’m using this in my daily life now
  
  I approve! Perfectly stated.
  
  Wow!!! Couldn't have said it better myself!!!?!?!
  You sir have won the Internet today haha XD lmao tips fedora
  Does the narwhal bacon at midnight? Haha le rage comic funny
- To be fair, if you make a decentralized, leftist answer to Reddit's inherent structural flaws, you're going to attract leftists and people who are fans of decentralization.
  Everyone else is already on Reddit.
  
  Yeah that's why I'm here lol. Sue me. Cars bad, Linux good.
- What have I become?
- Have a lemmy gold kind stranger!
  
  We don't do that here, have a lemon instead 🍋

Wow you just won the internet for today. 🤓
- Take all my updoots!
  
  Edit: Wow, thanks for all the gold!
- this

Edit: Wow this post blew up, thanks for all the upvotes!
- Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
  
  I grit my teeth reading that
  
  Updooted just cus.

What I find weird, is why people would comment that kind of worthless stuff when they could just give an upvote. It doesn't add anything to the discussion. It is just worthless fluff.
- I guess lots of people just like to talk.
  And writing responses like that comes close to that. I understand it, kinda, because I use to do the same. When somebody writes me some message or sth, I often reply with a short (but still unnecessarily long) text. I even do this when I wasn't directly talked to. So that's a habit.
  
  But did you make comments like that in public discussions?
- Because points.
- He's highlighting how many comments are just bots.
- I LUVE DIS COMMETS!!
- So they have a chance to get upvotes of their own.
- I truly think that most reddit comments (including those pictured) are from bots who use upvotes and downvotes to train an LLM.

Oh God
Were we that cringy?
- One time I went to a local Reddit meet up. Yep, it was all that cringy
  
  Reminds me of the reddit meetup in 2014?
  It was at a tech office on a Saturday.
  I got a free beer. But I literally smelled the atmosphere, and realized it was gonna be a Magic the gathering/nerd expo but filled with angry drunken weirdos and I left.
  The next day, the organizers sent a mass email asking for people to chip in. Someone broke the pool table. Someone ripped pages out of a manual. Someone stole name plaques from a managers office.
  They complained about having to clean up vomit and we can "do better redditors!"
  I think about that a lot.
  
  The narwhal bacons at midnight.
  
  a local reddit meet up? i have never heard of something like that. do reddit users go outside?!?!?
  edit: "users" is plural. i, for some reason, used does instead of do.
  
  Please, elaborate, I have only read about these meet ups, but never actually got to know, how they were...

Hell yeah! This just became my favorite saying.

I could probably find something similar on Lemmy. The fixation on Reddit is annoying when people could just use Lemmy and forget about Reddit.

I just assume everybody is 12 years old. It's the only way to explain most of the behaviors I see.
- Or bots, that's the other explanation.
  
  The most annoying thing about bot comments is that they're contagious.

My fellow le gentlesirs, does the narwhal bacon at midnight?
lol, upvote if you understood the reference!
- Even more than a decade later, that stupid meme still reminds me of one of the worst social events I ever had the mispleasure of attending. Can't have been later than 2012.
  I was making small talk, and I referenced an interesting article that had been on the Reddit front page the day before. "Oh, I was reading an article yesterday about blah bla-". This nerdy, but until this point socially concious guy interrupts everything for that stupid meme. "gasp DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE NARWHAL BACONS?!?!" "Yes. So as I was saying-" "But. Do you know. When the narwhal BACONS?" Everyone is looking at me like I'm responsible for whatever the fuck is going on now. "Yes, I found the article on Reddit. It was-" The man cuts me off again, "WHEN DOES IT BACON?" You motherfucker I attended the goddamn Jon Stewart Rally to Restore Sanity and have the Reddit and Colbert complimentary T-Shirt only handed out on-site to prove it and now is not the time I am attempting to be a normal human being with more diverse hobbies than staring at a screen all day don't you take this from me.
  
  The answer was midnight, by the way.
  
  It's funny, I was on Reddit at the time, but I didn't see the meme.
  So the one time I was asked, I didn't know... The guy went from super excited to crushed and embarrassed
- Le upvotes to the left!
  
  My only regret is that I can only upboat this once, good Sir.

Also, the degree of banning now is at another level. My friend got banned site wide for three days because she used the word moron to describe a mail carried that fucked up real bad. I guess she doesn't spend much time on reddit so she wasn't aware what a shithole that place became
- Tsk, tsk, cannot be training our AI to say naughty words, off with you.
  
  Yeah, it's also petty retaliatory mods.
- Thats been a thing since a shirt while before the api meltdown. I went through like 5 accounts getting banned for things like telling a TERF to fuck off or saying I hope someone assassinated Putin.
  And their "appeal" system just automatically denies you.
  
  And yet other violent content stays up and unbanned in the far-right subreddits, weird.
- Yeah, I stopped making new accounts there, cause they survive only for a couple of weeks or so until admins decide that morons are a protected group, or that answering calls to genocide with appropriate wishes is calling to violence (the other side usually doesn't get banned), etc.
  I like it here - at least bans for being rude are mostly egalitarian not depending on political positions (if you don't try to teach tankies economics and history on their own instances, which is stupid in at least two dimensions).
  
  It's really hard to stay back when they're praising North Korea, you always feel like Don Quixote does when he spots a windmill.

Without context this means nothing.
Pretty sure we cam cherry pick dumb comments from various lemmy instances and do the same thing
- I might not disagree with the original comment depending on the game. It's the botlike replies that turn me off.
  
  You can find the exact same "bot like" comments here too if you look for them.

I left in the big exodus and never considered going back. There's really only one community (r/Fantasy, because so many actual authors regularly post) I am really missing, but life continues without it.
- I read some shit, logged out with ad blockers. But I don't participate.
- I'm still reading (mostly for r/ukraine), but I haven't posted anything since the great exodus. Also the old UI finally helped me in overwriting all my posts and comments to my own posts the other day. Now I try to overwrite & delete a few comments every day that I made to not-my-own posts.
- Leaving was a blessing for me, I'm using all that time I used to spend doom scrolling to learn guitar. I only use it now when I'm looking up something obscure and the answer is in a reddit thread from like 8 years ago lol.

Come back when there's another thread full of [Removed]
- This is a good way to mess with someone from Lemmy.ml, because their dump of an instance automatically turns swearsies into removed

it’s cringe but equaly cringy is posting it to here and the comments pretending you couldn’t find a dozen similar examples on lemmy lol, like the demographic is not that different.
heaven forbid some cringey individuals spread some positive energy online! they should be more toxic and debate lord-ey with every comment.
reddit always had an incredible individuality, not-like-other-girls complex and it’s truly wonderful to see that that mindset has immediately migrated here. never change, reddit circlejerk brainrot, my love. 😍

I see the hive mind is hard at work.
Reddit is becoming the Facebook version of 4chan.
- Well at least they have downvotes 😂

Fucking Reddit with it's periods after every word. So infuriating!
- There’s a Dutch “media company” that scrapes socials for quotable things, puts them on a black background with white letters, and puts periods after every word. Also mugs, t-shirts, you name it. They made it their whole brand identity to WRITE. LIKE. THIS. Insufferable, really.
  
  BLAME. THEIR. CONSUMERS.
- Sad!
  
  Cringe!

Those have to all be bots, right?
- If you have to ask that question .... chances are ... yes

thanks for the gold kind strangler

People made those comments on a public page. I don't see why you are censoring the user names.
- It's not a new thing to censor people's usernames on posts. It's respectful and not doing so could possibly lead to people being harassed in DMs.
  
  Yeah, but nothing's ever stopped me from googling the comment and finding the original.
- The usernames are not pertinent to the sentiment. However, they could cause a hassle. So blanking makes sense.
  If there were dangerous or responses that merit a response, ok, but for trying to make a point of "comments are full of vacuous crap", it doesn't matter even in theory.
  Maybe if the post were making a point that people didn't agree with, it warrants some clues like a citation to back up the claims, but this is just a circle jerk sort of post, so no one's about to say "no, Reddit only has deep and meaningful commentary, you need to prove that comments like this exist".
- OP found this screenshot from a Redditor. I couldn't find the exact source. For all I know, the guy on Reddit wrote this stuff himself.
  https://www.reddit.com/r/redditmoment/comments/1at1cwe/peak_reddit_humour/

Gosh I completely forgot how to Reddit... I thought a guy named "Permalink" replied to his own comment several times...
🤦
- Congratulations! It's a sign you have it completely out of your system.
- Eh, still better than the social media site that puts replies above the original post.

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I remember the last post I saw on reddit before I switched to lemmy full time. It was the day after they removed 3rd party app support. I clicked on a video where 2 people were fighting, normally when something like that was posted I'd be able to go into the comments and find a source of some kind, be it a news article, someone who had seen it before knowing the context, or even a link to the original post. But as I kept scrolling I saw none of that. Just post after post of low effort shit like "got em" or, even worse, racist whistles (one of the people involved where black). I looked at every single comment, I could not believe that there was no source. Once I reached the end I un-installed RiF (it still worked the next day just not while logged in) and never looked back.

Reddit is bloodthirsty and quite often rejects reason, especially if you’re in subs like justiceporn or similar. People DGAF if the solution to a problem was “just walk away” that was available for the entirety of the lead-up to an incident, they just want to see massive retaliation for a slight, perceived or real. FAFO. can’t fix stupid. Etc.
Bunch of angry drunks looking for a fight for any reason.
That, and Reddit is all about reactions and retreads in all the popular subs, just like TikTok and the like.
The conversations happen in the small subs. Sometimes.

Meanwhile on Reddit: look at these Lemmy losers constantly whinging about Reddit lolololol
- or:

Guess I'm missing the point. Reads just like I remember.
Clearly it's the "AITA", not, "Ask a historian".

I just left reddit a seccond time and this is the first thing I see

Seems like just as much of a waste of time as it was before.

Why were you on Reddit, OP?

Is there such a thing as a 13 yo AI who fucked your mother? Because this reads like a gang of them.

Bots or well trained users?
- lol .... this is like the trash can problem they had in national parks that had to design bear proof trash cans
  They had to design trash cans to trick the smartest bears yet be easy enough to use for the dumbest humans ... the problem became in realizing that there was a small segment where the two groups overlap.
  The same thing is happening online ... we can no longer tell who the smartest AI are or who dumbest humans are.
  
  Oof, that overlap will only grow as the tech inevitably improves.
- yes

What sub was this? The big, default subs have been terrible for a very long time, the smaller, more niche ones are mostly still OK.
- Looks like AITA
- I still participate in a few small subs that Lemmy doesn't have the critical mass to replicate, and even in many of those there has been a marked decline in the quality of posts and discussion. It's painfully clear that the mods who left during the API protest were putting in serious effort, and the scabs that replaced them aren't up to the prior standard. Makes it a lot easier to leave most of Reddit behind, at least.

facebook for people who dont think theyre racist (theyre just racist with extra steps)

I'm using this in my daily life now
My neckbeard in spez, you don't talk to people in your "daily life".

I'm going to block you just for posting this. You've wasted everybody's time who had to scroll past this, and we are all now dumber. May god have mercy on your soul.

ITT: Lemmy circle jerk
- What is ITT?
  
  Lemmy circle jerk.
  
  In this thread
  
  In this thread

Jesus
- Christ
  
  Is

At least there is something to read, unlike on lemmy, where the most liked posts are bitching about reddit.

I only browse NCD on reddit now
- I'm going to be pretty mad when it turns out the reason NCD isn't full of bot trash is because it actually was a CIA psyop and they've got better bots.

Reddit is the new facebook imho, even people who I somewhat agree with frame their comments in such a way that I wanna punch them in the face, and a source for whatever they say? Lol trust me bro! I have seen that here even if someone says something that I don’t agree with, they at-least provide something that shows how they arrived at some point/conclusion, which opens a door for healthy discussions, I don’t think we as a community are much better, there are different flaws, but the environment is certainly different and better
- Seven or eight years ago I thought linking to sources was a rule/ettiquite, I learned it from how a lot of comments were back then and how I still format a good chunk of my answers.

Made a post on a subreddit basically saying how I had been trying to get a gameboy then scalpers jumped in and rose the price well past anything I could spend. It got some attention, basically a bunch of advice only useful for people making 8888888K a year. Then, overnight, a fuckton of mostly american scalpers spam downvoted me.