Warning: Reddit is shadowbanning people for talking about Lemmy. Picture related.

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  I see these characters and I immediately think of the @yiffit user lol
  
  @Kolanaki@yiffit.net
- And using different combinations of the letters too
  
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No one regrets getting banned from nazi digg.
- I don't regret being banned from the fly [Reddit] licking the Nazi shit [Twitter]. But I think it's important for people advertising Lemmy there to know.
  
  all the right wingers that got butthurt from youtube, reddit fled to facebook, because it gives them admin privileges, i had one that fled to fb, and try to bring down a sub by having his incel supports from youtube brigade the sub,(sub is mostly partially unmoderated.) it was a bunch of asian poc youtube channel, what a "disgrace" by siding with someone like that in the whitehouse/
- OMG, Nazi Digg. Can I borrow that?
  
  As long as you give it back :)
  
  By all means.

That's not a shadowban, that's a straight up suspension.
A shadowban is just when your posts and comments are filtered and hidden from others.
- Yes, it is a shadowban. It fits perfectly what you said: the posts and comments are filtered and hidden from the others.
  Here is another proof that this is a shadowban:
  Left: the content is shown to the user when they're logged in, and they can still submit new content.
  Right: the content is not shown to someone who is logged off.
  On the other hand, a typical suspension leaves the content visible for everyone else, it tells the user "you've been permanently suspended from Reddit [insert gaslighting message]", and the user cannot submit new content.
  Note that a shadowban is considerably worse than a suspension. Not that I care, though - I'm sharing this here because it is relevant for people trying to convince others to migrate to the Fediverse.
  
  Oh that's weird. I just got straight-up banned the other day for saying something bad about Nazis 😂
  
  another way to check, is while logged out and in private mode, you search up your account name to see if its suspended, or it doesnt exist.

Fuck Reddit, they banned me because I reported discrimination and it was easier to get rid of the whiner than do their jobs.
Now I can't talk nerdshit about The Sims anymore
- Get the sims community started on Lemmy. Try to convince some people to join
  
  Gwanda blitz!
- did they say you reported too much? on several accs, i had either a temp ban from that sub, or instant lecture from a mod, saying "you cant report this person, just because you dont like his comment" i was thinking then, what is a reportable offense, like its spamming/botting, isnt that reportable, like do you want me to engage and argue, which makes its worst?. my most recent one which got me the recent ban was "you can report this much in this sub, and we think you are "brigading" so we are temporarily banning you sitewide, which triggered the sites AI bot to ban multiple accounts sitewide without giving a reason. how can you say you are fighting botting/spamming from countries like RU when your MODS, and admins are banning the reporter. turns out your site needs the RU bots, simply because they make close to half of comments and engagement in certain communities.
  
  Thing is they didn't warn me or anything, they just jumped to the perma ban and I had to find out from numerous appeal attempts where Inever got a non-bot response

What's a reddit?
Oh, yea, that dumpster fire I walked away from 2 years ago. It still exists?
- Sadly, yes.
  Not gonna lie, I was only there to encourage people to get off Reddit.
  
  Make sure to wash your eyes afterwards if you’re using the redesign or app.
  
  That's at least a good reason to be there!
  
  So what's up with "not gonna lie"? I've been hearing it for over a decade, and I hear it from known liars, people I trust, and all the shades of in-between. This is the first time I've seen it on Lemmy.
  If someone I trust says it, I trust them less.
  If a liar says it, I know they're about to lie. It's the "I'm not racist but" of liars.
  I worked with a woman for years that said "not gonna lie" roughly 30 times a day. I liked her, I just hated that so I could be biased.
  I realize this is completely derailing the post but do you have any insight on this phrase?
- What the fuck is a Reddit?
  
  Some really shitty site. Going downhill day by day. To the point even your typical user is looking for alternatives.

I straight up got my account of 2 years deleted for advertising Lemmy lol, nothing of value was lost that day
- RIP ;_;7
  They're really trying to repeat the fate of Digg, aren't they? People would advertise the shit out of Reddit in Digg, to encourage users to move. Well - perhaps we should test if history does repeat itself.
- I was always one of the people that cycled an account every few months. Wish I didn't so that I could have used one of those tools though.

Perhaps using this picture instead of writing the link in plain text will help prevent the Reddit bots from detecting that one is recommending Lemmy there:
- if that's the captcha to get in... i'm out.
  
  Oh, no, I should have explained! That's something to help post the link hopefully without the Reddit bots detecting it. I've edited the post.
- Blaze has said that using this website is pretty hit or miss for new users
  
  found it confusing better to reccomend any instance

I moderate r/spezholedesign and have set up AutoModerator to promote Lemmy on all posts. I have made a post directly linking to lemmy.world and nothing has happened. I've never gotten shadowbanned or suspended
- I have no idea why I was shadowbanned and you weren't, then. Perhaps account age and/or karma had a role? (My account was five days old, and barely any karma.)
  
  That's probably the reason. My account is 1y 4m old and has 32K Karma. They don't ban high karma users that fast since it would sharply reduce the content on the site.
  
  thats why, it was too new. reddit is very hostile to new accounts, simply thier filters assume people are a potential bot/spammer, if they havnt been on the site that long. thats why people even using some proxies, anti-detect browsers get banned asap. also commenting on a sub, that auto removes your comments, for not having enough "karma or aged account" also flags your account. the question is, is visiting a sub you were previously banned in without commenting, will that also trigger some kind of flag? (i think so), if you notice they already have gone through at least 3 major purges in the last 3 months(of "bots/spammer/evaders) i was on the recieving end of the 3rd one. it was definitely noticable in DEC, as thier were less bots ragebaiting people.

You can't save them. Whoever is willing and mentally agile enough to look for alternatives will find us. Honestly, at this point, I'd be glad if especially the folks commenting on Reddit's mainstream subs did not join Lemmy and capture it with their boring, antiquated, views and extremely repetitive quips.
- The biggest hope I have is those that migrate over leave the reddit jokes on reddit. We don't need a million comments about the guy with broken arms, swamps of dagobah, poop knife et al. flooding lemmy.
  
  What the hell have you been seeing? Mine's totally not that
  
  this
- i think it takes get permabanned to actually come here, they are addicted to reddit, simply because of all the trump trash worldnews/political post there, and news is like a narcotic, because these 2 genre, and adjacent subs are almost always on the front page. even the salty r/conservative is on the front page alot. the permaban people that are constantly evading bans are usually the ones trying to earn a living through OF, or advertising by posting en masse, usually with the help of privacy browsers, proxies, new devices,,etc. funny how reddit is only going after them any evader aggressively, but doing nothing about the troll farm bots.

We need to figure out a way to recruit with to out outright posting it there.
- Text as pictures, word-of-mouth, bugging people in Youtube referring to Reddit to use Lemmy instead, coded languages...
  
  goto twitter subreddits and post memes from mastodon
  
  youtube
  I am far from elitist in most anything I do or say. I try to be inclusive when introducing others to a topic, offer information freely and at any pace they can accept it, and generally enjoy the most mundane parts of life so long as they’re done in a healthy way. I say all of that to preface the fact that I cannot tolerate most users on YouTube. They're, by and large, just awful.
  I do agree with your idea, but it physically hurts me to envision lemmy with YouTube comments.
  
  The XFCE logo social media site.
- It’s just bots enforcing this, images should work.
  
  probably worth a try but I have to imagine reddit's algorithms can read the text in images
  
  So what I'm hearing is post coded shitposts on Reddit? Got it!
- Honestly all it took for me was "reddit with no ads" and I was on faster than you can say Lenin
- Im sure there’d be a huge market for Lemmy if you just told people “do you want Reddit without ads or conservatives?”
  
  Reddit is overwhelmingly left. Get a grip.
- Whenever I see someone asking about or speculating that users need somewhere else to go... I direct-message them and give them links to https://feddit.org/search and encourage them to make a login on some instance...
  So far it doesn't seem reddit is snooping on direct messages ... yet

I'd imagine in that particular case it felt like spam. If someone came through here and was named Nick_From_Nike and only posted in threads related to Nike and only positively about Nike, I feel like many would quirk a brow.
Are we seeing shadowbans with established accounts that don't have lemmy in their username? Considering r/redditalternatives is still going strong, seems unlikely.

Good, I was getting fed up with being told over there that Canadians are useless and can't make a difference... this just tells me they're worried because we ARE making a difference🍁
- Woah...Reddit is anti-Canada? Honestly Reddit has always given me bad vibes, and from the sounds of things it's just getting worse...
  
  Not sure where they're all coming from, but there's this group who are there just to harass Canadians and they've been noticeably growing in numbers. One recent post was a very detailed, well-written plan about how the US is going to take over Canada, step by step. So it's not just small-time nonsense anymore. It's bad.

Got shadow banned years ago for sharing the link to the εxodus privacy analysis of the Reddit app. There is a reason why they keep trying to pressure their users to use their app. It's farming their personal data.
- Can you link it here? I've never heard of this analysis
  
  It is a great resource to know what an app is doing behind your back

That's interesting. I haven't been banned for mentioning r/RedditAlternatives yet. I'm honestly shocked that sub still exists.

Reddit is a horrible place

Where Is the shadow part of the ban?
- left side: logged in. exists.
  right side: private window, not logged in. does not exist.
  
  Interesting trick I should save for future use.
- It's just like adarza said.
  Left: logged in. My own activity is shown.
  \ Center: logged out, old reddit. It claims that the user doesn't exist.
  \ Right: logged out, new reddit. It claims that the user was suspended.
- A shadow ban is where they didn't tell you that you were banned. A shadow banned user could go for years commenting and posting and never realised they were banned. It's only if they check their posts while logged out that they realise.
- it means nobody can see your comments or posts, its the result of a redditor that was making multiple accounts and evading bans 10+years ago. it tricks you into thinking you "arnt banned, or comments removed" this way reddit doesnt advertise to the bots, user that they are banned.

Yeah we don't need Reddit to advertise Lemmy. I don't use reddit and reddit is obviously guarded against competitors since they're a corporation. I guess discord would be a better way to advertise Lemmy since it's not direct competition. So I guess post Lemmy links there

The exact rules of what links are banned varies from subreddit to subreddit. After posting a comment, I usually check in a private browser window to make sure it wasn't filtered.
- you can also check if your shadowbanned/ incognito, if you look at any redditors profile. usually with typing in reddit dot com /user/[your account name]

Contained in these parentheses is a zero-width joiner: ()
Three-ish years ago, my comments kept getting eaten by shitty regexes, and I threw my hands up and started placing that after every fucking vowel. It worked everywhere except the few subs so pants-on-head stupid that they had a secret maximum comment length. I just. I don't. Fuck some moderators, y'know? Some people cannot be trusted with the tiniest bit of power. Misery multipliers.
Related unicode shenanigans: inhibit symmetric swapping, pop directional isolate, zero width non-joiner, zero width space. I have more I'll keep in reserve.
- Contained in these parentheses is a zero-width joiner: ()
  And odds are that the admins are basically running some glorified version of AutoMod, so fucking with their regex would work nicely. I'll try this next account, thank you! (Also adding it to the OP)
- Interesting, I see’s it
  (Believe it or not I actually wouldn’t have checked if you hadn’t mentioned)
  
  Spent longer than I'd care to admit, searching that site for some other characters... before realizing it just printed the literal sequence of text you typed in.

Try lem my dot (world/ee/ect...) make it look strange but people will get it.

I tried to post about Lemmy this morning in a 160k people sub : it’s sitting at two like and i can post and engage elsewhere without consequences. I don’t think they shadowbanned me but i suspect that the post wasn’t shown to much people. It was a polite post and i am used to way, way more engagement, especially on the weekends.
- but i suspect that the post wasn’t shown to much people
  That's shadowbanning, fyi

If you just created account, if you comment on some subreddit it immediately shadowban you
- thats actually new thing to me, i have seen alot of the famous subs have upped thier filters, i avoid them by filtering out those subs from my feed. also people might make a mistake by accidentally commenting on the sub they were ban years ago, apparently the filters doesnt discrminate or clear itself once your bans are lifted or years old.
  
  It's suck, but if you make reddit account again, wait for around 3 month, or 1 year just to safe before comment. Or you can comment on smaller subreddit but don't make post. Just comment
  Subreddit like r/linux shadowban you if you make post if your account too new

That zero-width hack doesn't seem to work:
python

len("Le()mmy") 8 len("(Lemmy)") 7
- Wait how high am I? The example on top returns a length one higher than the example on bottom, because it has a non-printable character in there right?
  
  Yes.
- If it weren't working your code wouldn't count an additional character on the first string.
  Anyway, this is the character., as it seems that deleting the first parenthesis also deletes the ZWJ.
- I'd just post something like:
  I'll be shadowbanned for posting an actual link or mentioning the full name, but if you google "Lem reddit alternative" you'll get a lot of hits directing you the good place. Good luck, and see ya on the other side!

Promise?