Something’s Rotten About the Justices Taking So Long on Trump’s Immunity Case

As an organization, they are actively and intentionally interfering with electoral politics. Their lifetime appointments were designed to remove them from that dynamic, but they have decided to bypass that principle. The structure of our federal government is designed to deal with problems like this by having the other branches check them when they step out of line like this. Unfortunately, neither of the other branches have shown any desire to take action. As a result we are currently caught in a self-reinforcing death spiral of anti-democratic corruption that will eventually undo the union unless something changes. What a time to be alive.
- I think we are supposed to be that something that changes it.
  
  Peaceful protesting only works for so long.
- they are actively and intentionally interfering with electoral politics
  https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-supreme-court-congressional-redistricting-black-representation-201c1fa9e494ad0d88e4d9ed8328eae0
  https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1200906844/supreme-court-alabama-voting-case
- The executive branch (Biden) would have expanded the courts. Manchin and Simena refused to cast the needed votes to make it work. It's up to us to elect more Democrats so we don't have to rely on our worst ones to do the right thing.
  Look at what a mess the House has been when the Republicans have had a handful of votes to spare. Dems have no spare votes, and they've still managed to get a lot done. Put a few more Democrats in the Senate, and then we don't have to cater to the quasi-conservative senators in the party.
- All Biden has to do is appoint 300 more judges. Maybe 1,000. Let's see the GOP stuff that court.
- While I agree with the sentiment, this isn't correct. They aren't actively interfering. They are refusing to interfer when it's thier job. And the structure was designed to remove them from undue influence of the other branches... not from politics in general, or from outside influence. Fact is, noone is truely impartial, and outside influences are pretty much impossible to remove. So the whole idea of a court that is above that is just ludicrous.

How can we word this so tRump gets his way but also so Biden doesn't get immunity and when will I get another luxury vacation or motorhome?
Clarence Thomas probably.
- Uncle Tom
  
  Stephen from Django
  
  Obligatory: Uncle Tom was actually a good guy. The idea that he was some kind of traitor or such comes from a crappy adaptation of the book. In the actual book he dies to save some other slaves.
- Oh no it's just straight delaying his trial until after the election. They have no problem writing a 100 percent ironclad opinion on presidential immunity and then denying that immunity to Biden for reasons pulled out of a fever dream.

I don't know why anyone is surprised. All of the court watchers who aren't MAGA told us SCOTUS would sit on this as long as they possibly could. Which, assuming they're still coloring inside the rules, means the last ruling of the season. And they'll drag out all the other cases too so it doesn't look weird. In fact on Strict Scrutiny they've been warning that the court is dropping a bunch of no contest decisions because they're expecting one big drop with shitty partisan decisions that have no logic beyond the personal politics of the majority.
- That the charges weren't made until late last year is also a failure, the whole process has been unreasonable long.
  
  That was part of the game though. If any part of that process was sped up for him the Republicans would have ammo in their accusations about the trial. And rich people have long made sure the justice system goes slowly.
  
  Merrick Garland is a conservative. He did exactly what the world knew he would do when the neoliberal president appointed him.

MAGA SCOTUS justices in this case, MAGA judge in the classified docs case, MAGA prosecutor in the Georgia case ... good thing we hit him with four cases at the same time.
- Fucking seriously. How stupid are we that people would see exactly what you laid out and just say "hmmm, oh well the justice system is just slow or something." Except its only with his cases that are in front of Republican appointed "judges."
- In the case of the supreme court it is painfully obvious. It's because Thomas likes to live like a billionaire and Alito hates gays.

Subpoena them one by one and confront them about specific issues. For instance Thomas and all those billionaire friends who keep dropping money in his lap. Congress committees have the power to do this.
Let sunlight into the dirty little acts of corruption and impeach. Hit them instead of just complaining all the damn time. Also, six or seven year term limits. Then every single president will get a chance to appoint a couple and the bench makeup will be more balanced.
- Congressional subpoenas mean absolutely nothing after Trump's term though. They'll just ignore then and what, you expect Merrick Garland to arrest a Supreme Court Justice for contempt of Congress? If it even gets that far.
  
  Not so, I believe that Steve Bannon is going to the lockup for ignoring his in a week or so. I don't fancy that the supremes will want to risk that. It just takes will to apply the law. That's it.
  Of course, the Dems will huff and puff and do nothing.
- If Gym Jordan doesn't have to comply with a congressional subpoena, what makes you think Clarence Thomas will?
  
  I'm not sure of the person you refer to (sorry, not American) but surely that's the problem. Not applying the law equally. Can a common murderer or thief decide that a legal direction doesn't apply to them?

Lula's Brazil had Bolsonaro handled within six months. Banned him from running until 2030 over his January 8th coup attempt in 2023.
The failure to respond in 2021 doomed us all.
- The system doesn't want to save it's self, we are on a clear path towards fascism.
- Yeah. I expected nothing would happen until it was too late. I'm still disappointed, but I expected it.
- These trials could have started far sooner. But they were intentionally delayed by Democrats.
  The Democrats purposely did not prosecute Trump in time because they do not want anyone else than Trump to be running.
  Imagine if they couldn't "But Trump" right now.
  
  The Dems did fuck up, just not exactly as you describe. The Dems elected a neoliberal who appointed a conservative Attorney General. He did exactly what you'd expect a conservative AG to do and paved the way for Trump to return to power.
  
  You give the Dems too much credit. It's easier to believe they're weak and ineffectual.
  
  My guess is: pursuing bipartisanship with the right wing, relentlessly.
  
  This is most probably what's really happening. The same way Democrats try to get right wing extremists in Republican primaries to win because they see them as easier to win against.

Instead of "rotten", the title should use "completely predictable".
- Like leaving a mayonnaise container to age in the sun.
  
  The container will be ok.

The “hand is not hidden”. It’s out in public with a raised middle finger to democracy and our way of life.

Cause the coup has not ended yet.
- It won't end until they succeed. This isn't stopping with trump they will continue until they have permanent control. They can see the writing on the wall and that the numbers don't look good for their future in government so they need to solidify that control.
  
  Yeah, typical fascists.

Please USA, don't go full Nazi. That would be quite inconvenient for your neighbors, and the world probably.
- You have been permanently banned from c/Conservative.
  
  Oh no, my life has become that much poorer

Yeah, it's a real mystery.

Why should we be surprised? As a nation, we've shown the justices that there are no consequences. It seems they are not beholden to anybody.

It’s intentional specifically to buy the orange turd as much time as they possibly can, maybe delay the trial until after the election.
Which is incredibly stupid.

This is the best summary I could come up with:
For those looking for the hidden hand of politics in what the Supreme Court does, there’s plenty of reason for suspicion on Donald Trump’s as-yet-undecided immunity case given its urgency.
But it’s considerably more drawn out than the schedule the court established earlier this year on a challenge from Colorado after that state took Mr. Trump off its presidential primary ballot.
The court is a busy place, though the justices are completing decisions at the second slowest rate since the 1946 term, according to a recent article in The Wall Street Journal.
And yet Mr. Trump’s lawyers continued to take the untenable position, in response to questioning, that a president who orders the assassination of a political rival could not face criminal charges (absent impeachment by the House and conviction in the Senate).
In 1974, the Watergate special prosecutor squared off against President Richard Nixon over his refusal to release Oval Office tape recordings of his conversations with aides.
Even if presidents enjoy some immunity for official acts, plotting to remain in office while continuing to question the results of an election they clearly lost isn’t one of them.
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Wow, I wonder what it could be? It couldn’t possibly be that fucking everything anyone who’s been paying attention to the judicial system has been saying in the last 8 years for the past 8 years is all true, could it…?
For real though I’m getting real fuckin sick of being proven right on this whole realm of issues.

Entirely possible trump is lowballing the bribe.
- Well, some judges have standards. Clarence has gotten used to a certain level by now. Anything below the stuff he's been given over the years ain't gonna cut it.

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They're waiting until they know the outcome of the election. If drumpf wins, then they'll greenlight presidential immunity... immediately after Biden vacates office. For the love of god, vote for the sane choice.

Yeah its their putrid brains chock full of far right fecal treacle

it is in USA DNA: drama! trump is like a stupider britney...just without the skills or skin...and it will all cumulate to sth. bizarre. may convict trump will shave his head or drive down square garden DWI...we dont know yet but it will be bizarre.

Isn't this a common thing that before summer break they collect cases and defer judgements and dump it all on the day they leave for summer break?