1y ago

Gender-specific toilets to be required in non-residential buildings in England

www.theguardian.com

Ministers say move will combat growing concerns about ‘privacy and dignity’ in gender-neutral facilities

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1y ago

Gender-specific toilets to be required in non-residential buildings in England

www.theguardian.com /uk-news/article/2024/may/06/gender-specific-toilets-to-be-required-in-non-residential-buildings-in-england

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There's no problem with privacy and dignity in gender neutral facilities, because it's for one fucking person at a time.
- There ARE bathrooms that are co-ed. I live in San Francisco and I've seen them. But it's very very rare, and I've only ever seen them at crowded places like theaters. And there's 99% of the time additional private bathrooms.
  
  K but I've never seen a cinema in the UK with mixed toilets so moot to the UK. Gender neutral here is like a disabled toilet or a small cafe which only has space for a single toilet.
  
  I had some in college and the occasional gay bar. They’re fine.
Solving things that were never really problems whilst ignoring a heap of social injustice across the country? Yup, that sounds like the Tories.
Go on a plane, gender neutral toilets. On a train? Same thing. Most cafes like Pret or Nero have a single toilet that everyone uses without issue. What on earth are they solving here?
- What on earth are they solving here?
  Nothing, of course. Just pandering to the hateful and doing their best to portray harmless people trying to peacefully live their lives as scary "others" who are inherently predatory 🤬
- In addition to that, have you ever even heard of a trans person assaulting someone?
  
  Well even if one did it won't be prevented by gender separation of toilets.
I'm confused. In what way to universal toilets (toilet and sink in one self-contained room) not allow for the biological needs of women? Why are girls in schools getting UTIs because they're so scared of peeing in universal toilets? Why don't these work for trans people and NBs?
Is this anything other than just conservatives being transphobic and wanting to keep traditional toilets alive? I feel like I must be missing something here
- I honestly believe there is no real problem out in the real world with this. It's just the media who is making this shit up to make people fight amongst themselves.
  
  There should be no gendered bathrooms at all and everyone needs to grow the fuck up about performing natural bodily functions in the presence of anyone.
- Most toilet facilities in England have a shared washing up area so in most cases it would be prohibitively expensive to convert older ones to having a basin etc in each stall. Newer buildings tend to build in single person toilets which are then universal. I think the fear for some comes from having shared washing areas.
  
  I think the fear for some comes from having shared washing areas
  Fear which is of course based on ridiculous fearmongering from transphobes and completely divorced from reality.
  
  You're not necessarily wrong, but also that wasn't an argument made in the article so I don't think it's relevant here
- You know the whole "bear or man" thing going around? It applies to bathrooms too.
  
  I don't know the bear or man thing. I don't think. I saw a post about debating a bear that I made a joke on, but I'm sure that what just a shitpost
Concerns were noted that sometimes they let the wrong people keep their dignity

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