Lemmy + Kbin Just Surpassed 500,000 Total Users

I'm looking forward to the niche communities being active. Some of them are starting to pick up a bit.
- I’m looking forward to more beans.
  
  All in all, I would like to have a bit less circlejerk and start having more diverse content.
  Don’t get me wrong, all the beans and old memes is helping a lot with keeping the platform alive and with constant activity, but I think at some point we need to start posting more stuff and make Lemmy more friendly and attractive to newcomers.
  
  Coffee beans over a c/coffee or c/espresso
  
  Here you go.

I don’t think that’s accurate. I something funny is going on with kbin that is causing fedidb to see one instance as two separate instances. So this number is about 50k too high.
Also, if I may be a little realistically pessimistic, for those hoping for continued growth. These things tend to happen in waves with deflations in between. It seems the Reddit wave has come to an end, and some drop in numbers might happen over the next few weeks or months. It’s natural, and I wouldn’t be dismayed by it at all. Events like the migration cause curiosity in some people who don’t settle. It’s fine.
Who knows what will happen going forward, Reddit it seems is still doing it’s bullshit it seems. But if you like it here, there’s plenty to focus on here to make this place happen. And we don’t need to worry too much about whether Reddit a dying or who’s winning.
- Memmy on iOS is promising. Some bugs, but I see the intention (Apollo refugee).
  
  I'm using and recommending Memmy on iOS, this is quite reminiscent of Apollo imo.
  
  It needs to have a much easier way to rapidly suggest a good instance to make an account on without trying to explain all the details of Federation to new users. Just one click and done. They can learn about Federation afterwards.
  
  On the web UI, something I'd like to see is the various front ends people are making to be folded either into a user setting where you can select from a list or provided as different end points like old.reddit or, as lemmy.world has done, m.lemmy.world, or as lemmings.world with old.lemmings.world.
  There's wefwef/voyager, alexandrite.app (for desktop, using it right now, see !alexandrite@lemmy.world ), the standard, and I'm sure a few others that many would be happy to use right now. And it would be awesome if you could just use which ever you like whenever. Also a wonderful demonstration of what FOSS can bring to the table.
  
  have you tried liftoff?
  
  I'm in Android and Voyager feels good. I was an Apollo user though I guess.
- with deflations in between
  Worth noting that Hexbear(currently makes up 25% of all posts on lemmy) only saw a deflation in the initial weeks after launch. It then stabilised and didn't deflate at all over the course of 3 entire years of operating, it happily ticked along with new users coming in at the same rate as user churn. If other communities establish themselves and actually foster a real community that wants to maintain the space there will be an initial deflation but then people will just stick around visiting daily.
  A culture of simply permanently moving here should be something people work to establish.
  
  Interesting. Hadn't thought about the amount of posting done on hexbear. Do you know why they kinda defederated and are now re-federating?
  Otherwise, another factor is the effect of the wider fediverse. Interconnectivity between lemmy and masto is not great, but I'm seeing more attempts at it and interest in it from both sides, which is cool. And people are likely to create accounts from either side too, which for lemmy/kbin means that millions of people are slowly learning about them with an already vested interest in fediverse platforms succeeding.
  
  You've just reminded me I have an account there.
- Here's a secret, online analytics are never that accurate. They're a huge mess pretty much everywhere. If you want to get real insights from analytics the best thing to do is compare things relatively, like with a/b testing.
- My transition from Digg to reddit was a 3 year process.
  I made a reddit account immediately. Barely used it for a year while I basically still begrudgingly used Digg and also used other sites like stumbleupon and Tumblr.
  Year 2 was a pretty even mix.
  Year 3 I made a reddit account Id end up using for like 10 years, daily. stopped Digg, and others, held onto Tumblr for porn til pornpocalypse.
- Yeah, people shouldn't be pitting things against one another, it's not us against them (reddit). It's us FOR us. Let's go make lemmy better together, to hell with reddit.
- That the initial wave of migration is subsiding is very clear, we can see it in the growth rate of lemmy.world as an example. After the initial boom around July 1st there was about a week of daily growth by 3-4k new accounts. Since then, the growth has declined and now hovers around 1k.
  This is a crucial moment in time for Lemmy I think. It will be interesting to see whether that big chunk of initial migration is enough to achieve if not critical mass then enough momentum to get the snowball rolling.
  We can't expect another huge Reddit blunder sending folks this way (though killing old.reddit isn't inconceivable), so we have to rely on naturally attracting and keeping users around now by adequately varied content and active enough communities. That requires a lot of active users and I wonder if we attracted enough to get there.
  
  Honestly, I'm just waiting for sync for lemmy and boost for lemmy to release. Those two can actually get the snowball rolling as they were the most popular of the third party clients. (and also because I freaking loved boost 😍)
- Very rational to curb the expectations, but I tend to think that people who would be dismayed by numbers (I.e activity) dropping, weren’t going to settle either way long term, which is of course fine and very valid too.
  The steam a lot of communities have picked up won’t likely completely fade anymore though, here’s to hoping so at least.
  
  Oh I'm not talking about a collapse or anything like that at all. Many are happy spending time here, even those that also spend time over on Reddit for some things too and the effect of this migration won't just disappear.
  But these things come in waves, and so far have been trending upward, at least that's what has been seen over on mastodon.

Life is good when you try something new and realize just how annoying it was dealing with ads and fighting against a shitty algorithm.
No more of this 'He Gets Us' bullshit.
- I lost track of how many times I tried to block advertising accounts on there, but eventually gave up because blocking them just doesn't fucking work. So glad to be done with that rotten platform now
- The "He Gets Us" ad must be the most derisive ad hosted on Reddit. Nothing but complaints about it.
  
  It was infuriating.
  If I wanted to be preached to I'd subject myself to that nonsense.
- Oh shit, I had forgotten about "He Gets Us"... Thanks, I guess
- dealing with ads
  Just use an adblocker. It's basic internet safety at this point. I recommend ublock origin. If you're on mobile, android's version of firefox can use it as well.
  
  I assume they're talking about the reddit app.
- He get sus

🐭🤝📂

When I used Lemmy before the reddit exodus, it was getting like 12 updoots on the front page. I've noticed a hugeee difference, this post getting over 1.2k+ upvotes for example. Content is a lot more exciting. Haven't touched Reddit in like 3 weeks now.
I've been full RSS reader, Mastodon, and Lemmy. It feels good.
- What do you mean by full RSS reader? What exactly are you looking at?
  Thanks for your help
  
  I guess by full, I mean like full-on. Like most of the content I relied on Reddit for, I could get from RSS feeds. I play Genshin Impact a lot, so I don't need to visit that sub anymore now that I have an RSS. Also there's replacement communities on Lemmy now.
  Other then that, software or blogs you like, they usually have an RSS feed and then can group them under like a "Tech Blogs" category for example. It's something you build up over time, and RSS has been around for a long time so most things support it and there's a million clients out there.
  Fun fact, every Lemmy community has an RSS feed to subscribe to as well, even Mastodon profiles! RSS feeds directly grab from the source, so there's no centralized anything, so it's probably the most sustainable method of getting method possible.

Just FYI, some people have two accounts, one on Lemmy and one on Kbin, so some of these numbers may be duplicates.
- I have 4 accounts. Most probably have at least 2, one for nsfw
  The active user count is much more accurate.
- To my knowledge there's also no way of identifying bot accounts unless they proactively self identify so these numbers don't don't mean much
  
  Monthly Active Users is the stat to track
  
  At that stage bots and spam accounts are unlikely tho. Maybe in a year it would be worth it. Especially if\when Tumblr or Threads get into that, but I doubt it.
- I wouldn't be surprised if the real number of users was half, or even a third of that.
  I have four accounts.

That’s a good amount but I’m curious what the longterm retention will be like. Speaking for myself I’m here to stay, and am hopeful that with time some of the more niche communities come into existence and thrive.
- Just need to add more users than we lose. Lots of good things ahead, I see a bright future here.
- The number of active users has decreased.
  I try to limit my expectations. I've been hurt too many times, baby
  
  It may have decreased but if the ones who are left are the good ones, then that's all for the better. We can't force people to like us here on lemmy, all that matters is those who stays are the ones who truly care to build the community up.
- Also here to stay. As a minimally engaged user on that other platform, I'm feeling better about this.

We keep hitting milestones!
Excellent news

Amazing to see, as I look further into these platforms such as Lemmy and Mastodon I love them more and more as they seem to be so much more freeing than current mainstream platforms on the market.

We did it Lemmy!

I tried to subscribe to kbin communities from my own instance but they keep getting stuck on "Pending".
- This is a known bug in Lemmy. You are subscribed
  
  Ok I'll resubscribe because I removed them.

So guys we did it, we reached a half of a million subscribers!

reddit asked for it themselves :)

Isnt kbin also lemmy? Why the destinction?
- No. Kbin is it's own seperate project and software https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin
  
  I think the problem is people say lemmy when they mean either. My cheat sheet.
  Fediverse: a family of applications that are able to communicate with each other and provide various facilities.
  Threadiverse: subset of the fediverse, any federated program providing content aggregation / forum facilities.
  Lemmy: the main established application in the genre. Providing a primarily content aggregation and forum redditesque experience.
  Kbin: newer project providing the news aggregation and forum features but also micro logging that works with mastadon.
  Others I don't know about but do exist.
  
  But I can read and comment on Lemmy threads from kbin

Kbin doesn't seem to track active users. Their total users are the same as their active users.
- It's not the same for me. Total users: 53342 Monthly active users: 40878
  
  On Fediverse Observer they used to show exactly the same number till several days ago. Regardless, look at the post/active user ratio on Lemmy on fedidb. It's 1200000/72000 or 16.6. For Kbin it's 44000/45000 or 0.97. It doesn't make sense the active users of Kbin to be 16 times less active than Lemmy's. To me that's evidence that whatever Kbin is reporting as active users is very different than what's reported by Lemmy. According to these stats Lemmy has about 27x the posts Kbin has. That number is probably correct since it doesn't depend on what's considered active. A post is a post. Yet Lemmy has only 1.6x the active users. That doesn't make sense.
  If you use the total numbers for both from here, you get posts per user ratio of about 0.7 for both. That makes a lot more sense.

Hope it continues and that it's not all bots and multiple accounts.

Let's not call it that, tho. Fucking please.
- It was called that for a while.

I’m here on lemmy.world but what’s kbin? I didn’t know about whatever that is.
- It's another site in fediverse. It's a link aggregator like Lemmy is. I'm replying to your comment from kbin :)
- It's a site that is part of the fediverse, but is not a lemmy instance. It looks different, but it can communicate with all other lemmy instances.

Lemmy, it's a new Reddit !

ITT hipsters

How many on Lemmy alone ? BTW what's kbin? Is it like another instance?
- Kbin is completely different from Lemmy, in that it is not Lemmy. It's like a mix of Mastodon and Lemmy.
  
  And are we using/seeing/editing kbin content from our Lemmy instances? Or it's isolated from us? (Like Reddit)
  
  But kbin and lemmy can federate with each other (that sounds strange) so it's not a competition.

Noice!

Let's go!!!!

A good milestone for those two. Nice.

Oop let's go. Slow and steady!

Misleading
- Explain.
  
  How is that being downvoted it is obviously misleading. It is not users is number of accounts because if you make an account in different instances you count as 2 users but it is actually one so it is misleading. There are 500k accounts not users