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Amen. Bet my ass that most people dying of heart attack are in fact not vegan. On the other hand i would like to know how many vegans are suffering from malnutrition. Some morons will.
Nebelneik was a German youtuber who revealed he was vegan fir 2 years and didn't know how to cook and also didn't have time.
Well, all he eat was beans in a can. The most british thing I have ever heard. He did suffer from malnutrition.
But I feel like too many people suffer partly from malnutrition in some way even tho they eat meat.
its possible.
and you can do a technically vegan diet of potato chips and onion rings. or only bread and oil. can get pretty heavy on that.
but like... way harder.
the only way meat stops malnutrition is in a traditional diet that includes organ meats. nobody eats those on purpose nowadays.
Going veg/an as a 21 year old actually made me focus on nutrition in a way I might have never otherwise done. You become an expert at reading labels, and there is a lot of people going veg/an for health reasons (even though that wasn't my motivation) so books/magazines/cookbooks had a lot of nutritional info. The best thing for me was instantly cutting off all the junk I used to live on: 7-11 hotdogs, Lil' Debbie's, McDonalds, etc. I don't even see that shit anymore. It's completely invisible to me.
Same! I started being vegan because a medication I take made my appetite for animal products non-existent, but now it all just looks like a morgue.
As someone who generally tries to eat less meat, but isn't yet vegan, what are some of your staple foods you eat on a weekly or daily basis? This isn't about nutrition, I just want more meals to add to my rotation that don't have animal products in them.
Three bean chili, garbanzo fajitas, black bean enchiladas, pinto bean tacos, crunchy airfried peas on veggie wraps, ramen noodles loaded with raw sweet peas, and of course the most important food group:
Oreos
I'll never forget my shock upon learning oreos are vegan, haha.
Those sound good though, especially the tacos and fajitas, thanks!
I really wish I liked beans, but the only tolerable way I've found to incorporate them into my diet is specifically black beans, mixed in with things that make it less noticeable - like a black bean and corn salsa added to a salad or a burrito. The main problem is that most beans have a texture that disgusts me (though I can't say I enjoy the flavor either). Baked beans, refried beans, stews and soups that have a lot of beans are all no-gos for me. Those black bean enchiladas sound interesting though, mind sharing a recipe?
Mushrooms, lentils, tempeh, tofu, and rarely, things like impossible burger "meat." In general, you can straight sub some fungi and tofu for some meats in dishes. But a lot of western dishes do not play nice with these kinds of substitutes, since they're really dialed in for real meat. To go the distance, you must learn cuisine that makes better use of vegetables. This means learning things like Indian and Southeast asian dishes.
Indian and Indonesian kitchens offer a lot of vegetarian and some vegan options. Dry pressed tofu grilled in an oven van replace chicken in a bunch of dishes too and has all the amino acids.
But yeah becoming vegetarian if you just learn more true vega dishes is pretty easy in 2024 I've found
I'm also not vegetarian or vegan, but have transitioned to a much more plant based diet. The secret isn't finding meat replacements, it's just finding recipes that don't use meat. I mess around a lot with Indian, Southeast Asian, Middle Eastern, and North African cuisines. Chickpeas and lentils (most beans and legumes, actually) are my best friends. I've found that even though it's a grain, farro helps me feel full. I'm pretty sure you can make a lot of Mexican/Central American stuff without meat (but probably not without cheese/dairy), but I'm not positive because I'm actually not that big on black beans.
Personally I almost always make stuff I can eat for more than 1/2 days. So it's soups, stews, curries, etc. Everything pretty much boils down to protein + sauce + veggies anyway.
So it's lentil soup/curry/chilli with a side of whatever you feel like. (Salad, bread, rice, quinoa, couscous, etc) Or chickpeas or some beans or whatever. Other times it's just rice (think paella or risotto) or pasta.
Lemme know if you want specific recipes
Meal prep is a staple for me, and I love curry!
I make a ton of vegan chicken, steak, and jerky nearly every week and use it in all my recipes. You can make a ton at once, and obvi it's much cheaper than flesh / secretion-based products.
After getting really good at them, and swapping out milk for oat milk, I've pretty much had to change nothing about what I want to make / eat.
I didn't get good at cooking till I cut wayyy back on meat. Now I make tons on Asian and Indian dishes, sooo spicy and tasty. I do eat a lot of chickpeas, but bocca crumbles are pretty good as well. Morningstar makes nice vegan chicken as well.
Thanks! Got any recipes or tips for making vegan chicken, steak, and jerky?
How can you have vegan Chicken, it's literally a bird. Steak and Jerky sure but chicken,
We eat a lot of extra firm tofu. Freeze it, then thaw it, and then press it. If you’re eating a lot of tofu invest in a press, it makes it so much easier than stacking pans or bricks or whatever on a cookie sheet and hoping is pressed evenly.
Then cook how you like. We toss it with some seasoning and cornstarch and stir fry it crispy and then use it instead of chicken.
I'd check out !veganhomecooks@lemmy.world from time to time for some inspiration. I have a few posts there and I'm always happy to share recipes!
My main go to lately has been beans and rice in the instant pot (any pressure cooker is fine). Throw dry rice and black beans in with some sauteed onions and garlic, broth, a can of tomatoes and season with chili pepper, cumin and a few other common spices. That's been a staple for me for a while. Every batch makes a meal plus a few lunches and its really easy to make. Goes great with some tangy hot sauce. Can also be used to fill a burrito or tacos.
I do black beans in the instant pot with basically those same ingredients, then I make rice, then I end up combining them in a bowl to eat. I don't know why I never considered just putting the rice in there with the beans at the same time...
I like the one pot method, easy prep and easy cleanup, thanks!
"u taste like batteries"...ARE THEY EATING PEOPLE?
They're eating......part of them.
Lithi-cum ion lol
heh, coomer.
as a non vegan this really opened my eyes
Bro no way this guy got a degree in does eat meat, they must be so smart
I highly doubt cheetos and Mcdonald's is all they eat though. No matter what your diet is, nutrition matters. But once you've got that covered, you deserve a damn snack once in a while.
I'm vegetarian. Never had McDonalds. Do their burgers have poor nutrient content?
no. that would imply they have any nutrient content.
Most fast food is high or excessive on macronutrients (protein, fat, carbs), but low on micronutrients and fiber.
They used to be pretty much garbage food. They might still be but I haven't been in a decade
Its the reason why our culture have so many fat kids and kids with diabetes.
How the fuck is their only 1 punctuation mark in that whole thing?
Probably the same reason you used their instead of there
physician heal thyself
I never think about my diet, mostly eat beans and rice, random stir fries, dhals and burritos and oats . Only supplement b12. In my 30s, perfect levels across the board and am a distance runner. Actually I had to stop supplementing b12 as it was too high for a while (many foods are enriched).
You are spreading misinformation. There's massive amounts of iron, protein, and calcium in random veggies and lentils. Vitamin D you get from being outside like everyone else.
That is often where the stereotype of a "weak vegan" comes from, teenagers just not knowing what to eat while not wanting to partake in animal products. (But don't believe it, many professional weight lifters are vegan, and even Arnold has left out all other animal products except for eggs.)
But let's not pretend it's really anything complex. B12 supplementation is something that is often required, but like dairy is strengthened with vitamin D, many vegan products like vegan milks, breakfast cereals etc are fortified with B12. B12 comes from micro-organisms, it's just very plentiful in meat.
But for instance hemp seeds:
In fact, by weight, hemp seeds provide similar amounts of protein as beef and lamb — 30 grams of hemp seeds, or 2–3 tablespoons, provide about 11 grams of protein (1). They are considered a complete protein source, which means that they provide all the essential amino acids.
Am nott vegan btw. Flexitarian perhaps. Love me some good meat but strongly dislike industrialised meat farming. (game meaf from necessary population control = ethical imo)
(game meaf from necessary population control = ethical imo)
At what point do you consider population control necessary? The inconvenient truth is that the worst instance of unsustainable overpopulation is us humans. No other species could come close to the harm and destruction we cause. Making special exceptions for ourselves while we are the worst offenders by far would be very hypocritical. If you consider population control ethical, you ought to consider school shootings, murder, etc. ethical as well.
I think we need to find better solutions than going on killing sprees.
OTOH, you won't see many bodybuilders at the highest competitive levels that are vegan. (Compare the physiques of the people you see when you search for vegan bodybuilder with Mr. Olympia 2023 images.; while yes, absolutely, everyone in Mr. Olympia is taking metric fuck tons of drugs to get huge, there shouldn't be anything preventing a vegan or vegetarian from doing the same.) When you are being absolutely scrupulous about hitting your macros, getting sufficient protein on a bulk cycle without also getting high carbs or fats is very, very difficult on a vegan and vegetarian diet. The stereotype of a BBer eating nothing but boneless, skinless chicken breast, brown rice, and plain steamed broccoli during a clean bulk or cut is pretty accurate, because that makes figuring out exactly how much protein, carbohydrates, and fats you're eating really simple. If you're trying to do a very clean bulk or any cut, you're going to need to avoid food that has multiple ingredients unless you're planning on weighing everything that goes into it first. Which also fucks up your recipe, but, oh well.
If you're a power lifter, it's less of a concern; you may be getting more carbs or fats than is ideal, but since you aren't trying to cut to 5% bodyfat, that's not really a huge problem. Same with endurance athletes (who, TBH, need to eat significantly more fats and carbs anyways; if you need to eat 8000 cal/day just to maintain, then eating super clean is probably not a concern).
Take your example of hemp seeds: for 30g of hemp seeds, you get 10g of proteins, but you also get 15g of fat. For 100g of dry lentils, you get 27g of proteins, but also get 60g of carbohydrates (48g net carbs if you subtract fiber from your totals). For 6 oz of B/S chicken breast, 53g of protein, and 3g of fat. (...Which is slightly better than ON whey isolate powder, which has 1g fat, 2g carbs, and 24g protein per serving.) So if I'm trying to hit 250g of protein in a day, it's easy to say that I need about 28oz of b/s chicken breast each day, and do my meal prep all in one go for the week. It gets more complicated if I want to have lentils, quinoa, brown rice, and asparagus.
I'm not saying veganism isn't viable as a meal plan, because it toally is! Like you expertly explained, there are considerations you have to take in to cut meat from your diet, and supplements you have to be sure to seek out in vegan-specific foods.
My god mate, just stfu.
Do you have any idea how condescending you sound?
hey now, that's not fair - they also turn into nutritionists any time a woman over a size 4 posts a picture.
I don't "look like a vegan" I was told because I have some big old tittays.
we all know vegans look like cancer patients and shriek like baby birds 24/7 /s
Are they older than the rest of you?
"You don't look like a vegen"
"Well you don't look like an incel either"