Pope Francis has called surrogacy a "grave violationsof human dignity"
Pope Francis has called surrogacy a "grave violationsof human dignity"
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14119731
Here are two sources I found:
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Why do we care what the leader of a pedophile death cult thinks?
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Because this particular death cult has billions of members.
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he affects the retards, the retards are a problem
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he affects the retards, the retards are a problem
Ya this is key right here. I feel like if we want to make progress and not just bitch about our problems, we need to figure out how to break the link between grifter cult leaders and their idiot armies, whether that's in the church or MAGA or anywhere else.
All those funny dumb people full of hate we laugh at with Jordan Klepper cannot be turned into smart nice people. We need to put their focus back on ancient aliens and who shot JFK to get them out of the way.
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In the US, Evangelical Christian’s did not give a shit about abortion until about the 70s, when they realized they could form a coalition with Catholics to gain political power on that wedge issue. Lots of people care about what the Pope thinks, so unfortunately the rest of us have to somewhat too.
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Because he influences a lot of other pedophiles, presumably.
The issue of surrogacy, particularly in a country like the United States, which denies people public health care and forces pregnant women to assume an enormous amount of medical risk (particularly in abortion-illegal states), is a hot one from a socio-economic perspective.
Turning desperate young women into indentured servants is bad aktuly. And it shouldn't take a guy in a big gold hat to make that clear.
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Hypocrisy?
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To think that an entire Abrahamic religion was born from a woman's need to convince her husband that she hadn't slept with another man hence she came up with the whole "God did it" and raised her son to believe it.
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Why would Mary care what the Pope has to say? She's Jewish.
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To quote Captain Holt:
"That is amazingly funny."-
Hot Damn!
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God committed rape and adultery.
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I mean, after thousands of years of Christianity, it's a little weird that people get so shocked when they behave like assholes.
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Yah, ...like she had a choice.
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Just for the record, there are a surprising number of rich people who are paying other people to have children for them. It's not for medical reasons, but for cosmetics and convenience. It actually is pretty weird imo.
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That sounds like something tabloids would say but has little relationship to the truth. If you got hard numbers I will look at them and you can prove me wrong.
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I'm not trying to sensationalize -- if the pope meant to shame gay couples or couples with health concerns, then that's ridiculous. But people do use surrogates for other reasons, too. Just Google search celebrities and surrogacy. I know some of the Kardashians have said they used surrogates, and I'm sure there are others.
The heterosexual couple I know are not celebrities, but they are obscenely wealthy. They now have two children who were born like 8 months apart, haha, both borne by surrogates. There were no health issues for the woman in the couple -- just convenience and the desire to avoid the normal health issues that pregnancy causes.
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i mean you don't use their genes...
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Yes, I know how surrogacy works...
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that's funny, we all call the Pope a grave violation of human dignity...
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pregancies
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The comic correctly infers that religion is only as valid as the person chooses, thereby confirming its manmade origin
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So people around here are OK with human trafficking? Because surrogacy is basically that, with extra steps.
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How does using someone else's womb with consent to carry your baby to term even remotely come close to human trafficking?
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What would those extra steps be?
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Show your work.
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Beg your pardon?
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No, that's, different, you see!
She wasn't a surrogate, she was just raped by a ghost who's also her son, which is of course totally fine and wholesome!
Well if we assume God is female, then Jesus' mom would've been a surrogate, technically, I think.
Depends whether the holy ghost has a penis that ejaculates, really.
....is not something I ever thought I'd write 😆
She wasn't raped; see Luke 1:38.
"She's not gonna SAY no... because of the implication"
-God explaining the plan to the angel
Yeah she was; see Leia 4:20
It's not like she could just not consent to a being that she was taught to worship
The mythology of Christianity notwithstanding, people really get hung up on the alleged circumstances of his birth while paying precious little attention to the sermons and practices he engaged in during his life.
Would that everyone believed the Loaves and Fishes story as influential as the How Mary Got Preggers tale.
Well personally I'm aware that literally none of it happened, so might as well have some fun about the most insane parts rather than a simple dupe hack 😉
Which loaves and fishes story, the first one in Mark or the second one in Mark?
What exactly do you think the lesson is in these stories?