It took them five years to whip up a measly 20 pages of dipshittery? Magic space daddy is free to come down here himself and choke on my girl dick if they take such offense to me. Show up quick though I've got The Surgery™️ in two months. My unique dignity is I do whatever the fuck I want to with my body, and if god didn't want that for me shouldn't have given me the damn thing in the first place

Also I love that they're like "don't modify your precious god given body!" and in the same breath say intersex people should be "corrected". Fuck these ghouls and fuck anyone who supports them

Fuck Pope Francis. Love that he said "no its okay to do genital surgery on babies (literally less than 2 years old) if they don't match what we decided was right for them". Intersex people can just go fuck themselves in the Pope's view I guess.

0 fucking consistency to any of their bullshit rhetoric. I think God's core message is actually to shut the fuck up and let medical professionals address people's health problems.

GRS literally saved my life. I would literally be dead if not for it. Transitioning allowed me to live a happy, fulfilled life. Anyone who tries to say that I shouldn't have been able to transition, or should be forced to detransition, is unironically literally saying that I should be fucking dead. No part of me is a man. If God existed, then me as I am today was always his plan and design for me. Because otherwise he's just a fucking asshole who literally created me just to suffer and die. If such a God existed I would have no qualms openly defying his creation, because no human being should be driven to suicide over something that real medical treatments exist for.

“ideological colonization”

The unbelievable fucking audacity for the catholic God damn church to accuse trans people of colonizing is so fucking wild. Such an unbelievable thing to say as someone who's the head of an organization that goes around the world "converting people from their heathen religions to Christianity". But somehow spreadings trans rights to be themselves and receive medical treatments that save their lives is "colonization". I'll tell that to the tens of thousands of dead native children buried outside catholic residential schools.

And if anyone knows about violating human dignity, it's the Pope.

This pope has always been nothing but a PR figurehead, he says nice platitudes, calls gay people friends, and everyone seems to buy his bullshit. Meanwhile, before he was Pope, he was a bigot, misogynistic, antiquated asshole. All the inclusive things he says are nothing but marketing.

You know what else violates human dignity? Shuffling around pedo priests so they get away with their abuses. Refusing to meet with or compensate victims of the clergy. Telling clergy not to cooperate with police etc. That's what violates human dignity

Remember kids: this is the leftwing darling good Pope.

Religion, not even once.

It distinguished between gender-affirming surgeries, which it rejected, and “genital abnormalities” that are present at birth or that develop later. Those abnormalities can be “resolved” with the help of health care professionals, it said.

Of course. God created males to be male and females to be female, and any attempt to change that is an abomination... but he didn't create intersex people to be intersex, and that must be "corrected". Just goes to show, this is just man putting his hate in God's mouth again.

Honestly, the main reason I don't believe in God is because I can't believe any all-powerful, just and benevolent God would allow things like this to be said in their name without any push back.

So…god did not plan for the reality of the fluidity of genders? The all powerful all knowing god did not account for this in his plan?

I can't say I really understand the argument against surrogacy they're making here. It seems like the same argument would mean that adoption shouldn't be allowed either. Their other argument on the matter seems to be that abuse of a system means a system should be eliminated, which is an interesting argument for the Catholic Church to make.

You know what really violates human dignity? Being raped by a priest and then having the church cover it up.

Funny I felt a lot less dignity without gender affirming surgery.

And on a bitchier note, my genitals may be handmade, but I’m allowed to use them.

Not breaking news: the Roman Catholic Church is not a force for good in the world.

the vatican can blast this dick

I'm no expert but I think systemically raping kids and assisting those perpetrators is a slightly worse violation of human dignity

Welp, turns out they’re still the same old Catholic Church after all. Whoda thunk it? 🙄

No it's not, but being abused by a priest sure as hell is.

Not holding my breath, but I'd love to see a day when religious leaders run out of followers.

Fuck this bioessentialist piece of trash.

I don't believe in any god, but even if I did I would not think such an entity had any right to dictate or make judgements on who I am and how I am, or my identity or purpose.

I'm so goddamn sick of this bullshit. I get to decide who I am and set my own path, fuck these people who think they get to tell me (and everyone else) what my life and body and purpose and identity are >:(

Really, I can't even begin to describe how much I hate this sort of patronising bullshit, how many of us have to suffer or die because of the relentless repressive normativity imposed by these groups and their infantilising ideologies of self repression and obedience and compliance, especially with the "dignity" and "diversity" doublespeak they've been trying to use in the past few months even while they systematically try to erase those very same things from anyone who doesn't fit into their suffocatingly binary and restricted conceptualisation of identity nya.

Our biology, identity and lives should be ours to control. We are capable of deciding our goals and purposes. I frankly hope more people realise they don't need some patronising religious institution to tell them how they should exist or what their purpose should be (if any, some folks are more nihilistic), and seize their morphological autonomy and decision making from groups that would deny it to them under the guise of such bullshit as supposed "dignity" ^.^

Seriously, fuck this. The Catholic Church (and this """cool""" pope), as well as pretty much all the other organised religious institutions who propagate the same infantilising and self-subjugating rhetoric, can go fuck themselves with a cactus in every available hole.

"Organization that has repeatedly violated human dignity by organizationally exploiting children for sexual purposes (when not outright abusing and murdering them for being the wrong color), and brutally oppressing those who it declares carrying the sin of "wrong think", thinks its allowed to have an actual opinion on the very concept of human dignity, much less what adult individuals pursue to obtain their image of it"

Diderot said "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". About time , if you ask me.

Guys, guys, i’m starting to think this orthodox Christianity is just a lot of made up nonsense

A man who claims he talks to a great sky wizard says the wizard doesn't like it when you do something that incidentally, he also does not like. He says he's very sorry but these are the rules, and the great sky wizard will be very cross with you if you don't follow them.

He says you'll be burned alive for eternity and deserve it if you seek out appropriate care for psychological issues. Wait no that can't be right can it?

Ok boomer. If trans people want to "make themselves God", I support that. Whatever that is supposed to mean anyway.

The social engineering once forced upon the masses to increase slave production is finally coming close to irrelevance

Yeah, the Vatican threatens my unique dignity. It is so declared.

It’s astounding to me how on every social issue in the past 2000 years, the church is always like 25-100 years late on taking the right position, and they just never learn.

So look forward to the Catholic Church being ok with gender affirming surgery in 2050.

So glad they're only blasting it and not slamming it.

I think offloading one's morality to a patriarchal power-hungry cartel is an embarrassment to human dignity, but you know what I do about it?

Let people live the one life they have in whatever way they want so long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

It's not anyone else's job to force their idea of dignity on people, but I guess the Catholic Church isn't known to stop their clergy from being forced onto unwilling targets.

God's plan is just the alpha release, has a lot of bugs, and is not feature complete. Lol

people must not tinker with that plan or try to “make oneself God.”

How fortunate it is that every single one of is sins and can all be forgiven, so we can just leave worrying about all that up to God, right? Right?

Or some shit. I'm an atheist, but I understand the myth better than most believers. Not that it matters because there is no logic or consistency anywhere in the doctrine, so why assume there is any in this edict?

Wasn't Eve created from a man's rib as an afterthought?

God is dead, popey boi, keep your culty ideas to yourself

something something yin and yang. Be a little based, gotta be a little unbased.

Balances out the universal gravitational whats its doohickeys or something.

This is barely news; the headline might as well be 'Hate group hates'. But jeez, I giggled at the start of the fourth paragraph with, "In its most eagerly anticipated section…" Even among Christians, even among very-very-Christians, is there anyone who "eagerly anticipates" the Vatican's declarations of doctrine?

But touching little kids was definitely part of the plan.

If "God created man and woman as biologically different" then who created all the different intersex people? Even if you ignore or dismiss trans people, there are other people whose sexual characteristics at birth were not so easily sorted into male or female, and others whose physical traits either don't align with the basic understanding of "sex" chromosomes or whose chromosomes are different than XX and XY.

Logically, if God exists, then either their statement is wrong and He does make people whose gender is indeterminate, or there is another god who is also making people. Or perhaps He is not that involved in the process, and "God's Plan" is more of a loose framework.

can we just blow up the vatican

Someone TAKE HIM OUT to dinner PLEASE.

The definition of what a gender entails should be vast enough that people don't feel the need to reaffirm it with drastic medical intervention with major health risks.

Let the men wear skirts and the women go topless.

Heh, looks like the old folks are trying to keep their theories illogical!
I have to say I don’t personally think much of current gender reassignment, but it makes absolutely no sense to say that this current trend isn’t in some way aligned with ‘the lord’s plan’, should you believe in that. There are definitely people who feel better as the other sex, you’re trying to tell everyone that an all-knowing being couldn’t account for that?