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  • What the fuck has happened in New York to justify the need for airport level security in subways?

    • They hired a cop to be mayor.

      This is probably all about shutting down the next blm or occupy or whatever by creating check points at transit hubs.

    • It doesn’t bear out statistically that the subway is dangerous this is literally because of crime stories that go viral that create this perception. If you use the argument I just made people will literally accuse you of gaslighting them. Oh oh and another thing the New Yorkers who scream the loudest about this shit are the ones that DONT ride the subway; they’re fucking cowards. I’ve spent thousands of hours on the subway while there have been uncomfortable moments I have never been attacked or thought I was going to be attacked. It’s fucking safe as fuck; I’ve been to plenty of places in America where I felt unsafe and I’m telling you the nyc subway is fucking safe as fuckkkk. People are racist cowards.

      Edit: I don’t want to sound too dismissive though as I’m a tall dude and at the end of the day; In the same way it can be sketchy to walk in certain parts of town at 2am as a woman the same is for the subway; sexual harassment happens and just like nearly every woman has a story of being sexually harassed/assaulted above ground; nearly every woman I talk to that rides the subway has a story of something happening down there. Obviously the fascist security theater in the OP won’t have any impact on that whatsoever but yeah safety is relative and I understand engrained misogyny can create very different perceptions of these environments for woman, trans, GNC ect

      • Exactly, I grew up in the city and the subways were always relatively safe

        Hate seeing one of the best parts of the city ruined

      • This was my experience also. I lived in NYC for almost a decade, and never once did I feel unsafe anywhere in the entire city. This includes doing things like taking the subway and walking home alone at 3:00 in the morning. It was just an incredibly safe feeling city. I too was a young white guy in excellent physical shape at that point, but while I'm sure that influenced things somewhat, I simply don't believe that anywhere in NYC is so dangerous that this is a reasonable option.

    • Wasn't there like a stabbing by a serial attacker and the cops hid until the guy who was being stabbed subdued him by himself?

    • Paranoia, mostly

      In mid-2022, there was about one violent crime per one million rides on the subway, according to a New York Times analysis. Since then, the overall crime rate has fallen and ridership has increased, making the likelihood of being a victim of a violent crime even more remote. Last year, overall crime in the transit system fell nearly 3 percent compared with 2022 as the number of daily riders rose 14 percent.

      The downward trend stalled early this year, with the number of major crimes in the transit system jumping in January before dipping again in February. Through March 3, there had been three homicides in the system, compared with one and the same period last year, according to police data. Overall, major crimes, including felony assaults, burglaries and grand larcenies, have increased 13 percent so far this year, the data shows.

      Through Feb. 25, the authorities tallied six assaults against subway employees, up from five last year, according to police data.

      source

  • I would always roll my eyes at the plane-vs-HSR comparisons when they would include TSA time in the overall plane time only. Of course they're going to have tedious and invasive security theater before you can get on an american high-speed train. MTA's proving that they don't need new technologies or a significant attack as an impetus; they're making the existing train worse because fuck you for not driving.

    • Interestingly many of China's HSR train stations are in the city outskirts and have security theater but still managed to cut out a lot of domestic aviation's market.

  • the subway: we need to stop fare evasion otherwise we'll run out of money and die

    also the subway: this shit

  • In bad country the state tracks your every movement. You cannot even leave your neighborhood to go to work without passing through a state checkpoint.

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