1y ago

We compared the finances of 30-year-olds now, to 30-year-olds 30 years ago

www.abc.net.au

I'm sure this whole article comes as a shock to nobody, but it's nice to see it recognised like this.

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1y ago

We compared the finances of 30-year-olds now, to 30-year-olds 30 years ago

www.abc.net.au /news/2024-03-28/data-on-30-year-old-australians-shows-financial-hardship/103528726

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caught in an economic perfect storm
It's nobody's fault, just economic weather. Just bad luck. Nothing to do with corporate capture of the political process whatsoever.
- The bad things did not just happen, they were conscious choices or the inevitable consequences of those choices. I'm criticising the framing of this situation by the use of the passive voice in this subhead.
- “Capture”. Did no one study the bourgeois revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries?
  The capitalist class revolted against the aristocracy and built new systems of government to benefit them. That is the origin of the modern state and capitalism.
  The state as we know it has always been just a tool of the capitalist class to control all other classes. That’s what the state is, a tool of class control.
  
  I'm from the UK. We still have a monarch and an aristocracy, as well as a capitalist class. Even worse: they interbreed.
  
  Forgive my ignorance, but which event of the 17th century would you classify as a burgeois revolution? Late 18th century of course, even many during the 19th century, but i just can't remember any such event from the 1600s
Fuck this was depressing to read. Validating though.
- Ya wanna know what's even better? Most of the stats in this piece use averages. Averages are basically fake news when wealth inequality explodes, which it has over the last 30 years — if the top 1 million Australians have $1M, but the other 23 million Australians have $0, the "average Australian" has approx $42k — the situation is significantly more dire than this analysis makes it appear.
  Take this article that focuses on the growth in the top 5-20%, even though the richest 1%, 0.1%, and 0.01% have made much larger gains relative to each other.
Yep. Lays it out pretty clearly.
30 years ago was 1994, I was 25, 2 years into moving to a new city with a job but no place to live. I was making $8.60 an hour and paid $300 a month in rent. had a room-mate in a 2 bedroom apartment.
- Given that I was making more than that as a teenager earlier than this, I assume you are not in Australia. I was still living with my parents 30 years ago. When I moved out in 1996, I was making $405 per week and my rent for a basic fully-furnished two bedroom apartment was $105/week.
  There's an apartment in the same building for rent right now (not furnished) at $550/week.
- I was 19, 5.25 an hour. Roomed with two family members and all of it went to rent. Also, 99. Whoppers, and gas was 1.19 at Arco.
“I’m not even close … and it sort of feels like I’m trapped there.”
You and me both, buddy. I don't even know what I'm working towards anymore, because everything seems so far out of reach. I'm to the point that I don't let the gov't automatically take anything from my paycheck, so come tax time I can wait until the last minute to pay, because who knows when the revolution will happen? I'm not trying to pay taxes to some bloated bureaucracy on deaths door. I'll wait to see if it's even still around first.
It's enough to make you begin to wonder if accelerationism is a viable strategy - things don't seem set to meaningfully improve any time soon...
- Spoken like someone who is certain that they won't be the first to suffer and die.
  Accelerationism leads to a bunch of good people dying, when we need all hands on deck to fix this broken mess. Especially the people who have the most experience with making something work from almost nothing, and experience in being part of a community. Accelerationism also only keeps around those who are willing to exploit others to get ahead. And then humanity starts the next dark age with neo-feudal warlords and the people who survived as their pawns.
  Humans don't even have collectively long enough memory to not repeat the evils of the Holocaust within living memory of its victims, let alone maintain any theoretical level of post-collapse enlightenment. Good thing I'll be one of the first to die!
  
  Accelerationist don’t have the monopoly on good people dying. Good people are dying now. The question is this; given our current back side of all aspects of life, is the current path more or less harmful than radical change? Do you see the current system as capable of the necessary systemic change needed to prevent the furtherance of harm in the future, let alone the current rate of attrition? If not then what else could be proposed? I would prefer to be able to vote solutions into existence.

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