English Brother-in-law had finally decided to learn the language after like 15 years of living there. Had just about learned enough to order the drinks and have a basic conversation.
He orders slowly. The barman looks increasingly perplexed. He finishes and looks up, proud of his first real test of Icelandic.
"Sorry mate, I dunno what you're saying" says the barman in a thick Australian accent.
Honestly, just try English. Most small European countries speak it better than we do.
I never understood the "ugh you're trying to speak my language, I don't feel like listening to you butcher it" that some countries get.
Like every time a coworker bitches about how they can't understand a warehouse worker because of their heavy accent, the fuck do you expect them to do, not try to talk at all? (the real answer is usually "hurrrr go back tuh where dey came frum") but you're gonna sit there, butchering the language you use every single day by the way you speak and how you spell, while they're in a country they likely did not grow up in, and are learning the language still. If they don't converse, they have a harder time improving. If you truly cared about understanding them, you would talk to them more.
Anecdote time: one of the forklift drivers was fairly new when I started last year. She's a social butterfly. Comes over to ask how we're all doing, asks how my wife is, how coworkers kids are, how our weeks are going. She moved here from Puerto Rico, and barely has an accent anymore. It's definitely there and you can place it, but 0 problem understanding every word.
A couple guys started just after I did, and they stand around the compactor all day where it's too noisy to talk, and nobody voluntarily goes near. They still have very broken speech and heavy accents. They've been going out to clean things recently so I try to strike up conversations but they don't seem too social when they're working.
I have no way of knowing what these people do outside of work, but if inside is any indicator, being social and talking goes a long way to improving speech in any given language.
So maybe don't go "that's cute. Stop trying." instead go "hey cool, but if you're up for some constructive criticism..." and be helpful. Or shut the fuck up.
Paris, they'll pretend they don't understand neither your English nor your 100 words of French.
Towns in the country, you meet indifferent professionalism and you kinda get by in English.
Rural areas, you encounter the greatest of enthusiasm for your knowledge of the local language, and just as well, because those 100 words are all you can rely on for the entire duration of your stay.
Any attempt by a foreigner to speak "cúpla focail" (a few words) of Irish to me has been incredibly well received. It's usually Americans actually and their pronunciation is terrible, because Irish sounds nothing like it's spelled when compared to the usual latin alphabet sounds, but fair fucks to them. I appreciate it very much.
I once tried to order some drinks in a noisy bar in France. I thought I was explaining it ok but was not being understood by the girl behind the bar. It got really awkward and was making me seriously question my French (I'm English). Eventually it turned out that she was Irish and had equal but opposite holes in her own French. We had a good laugh about it and spoke in English thereafter.
Had she been Scottish tho we probably would have still been better off speaking in French.
Yeah I lived in Germany and speaking German was not encouraged. In France, they pretended they didn't speak English and ignored you if you spoke in broken French.
The prejudice against learning French only applies to the French, not the lovely people they brutally conquered in Africa.
I was once at a party with a group of gentlemen from the Ivory Cost, and saying "Côte d'Ivoire? Bonjour, je m'apalle Godriq, Comment se va?" after they introduced themselves made us best friends for the evening, even through they were initially surprised and very mildly disappointed I was not a Frenchman, as my grasp of the language was those few well-pronounced phrases.
Still, a great night with them from what I remember, great people, great amounts of booze, and a great amount of French learned!
Ive heard from a few different tourists who went to places like Italy and South and Centeral American countries, and aparently often times people there want to practice their english which can cause quite the funny scene where you're both speaking each others language poorly at one another.
Dutch people's reaction is probably more of a combination of blue and pink ("Congrats, that's cute, but why'd you put yourself through this? We can just speak English"), but most people will actually appreciate the effort and go through with speaking in Dutch if you insist.
My experience in Germany is quite the oposit, they don't wanna talk in english and will entretain your broken german unless they literally can't unterstand you.
Even in the street I am approached in german and "I do not look german" at all.
Since youtube's algorithm started feeding me videos of multi-linguists running around and speaking lots of languages in various contexts, this seems accurate.
The biggest problem I've had learning basic language skills is people talk back to you and they don't typically say what's in the learning material. I've kind of made it seem like I understand if I speak the language and I kind of feel like an idiot looking back at them with a blank face when they speak it back to me. But I sucked in school with languages and chose to learn a dead one to get the language credit to graduate.
Anecdotally I went to Paris in the offseason and the locals were some of the nicest out of any country I visited on that trip. My French is shit but they tried so hard to work with me lol.
I hope this is true. I'm going to Spain in a few months and my Spanish is ok, but it's definitely Mexican Spanish and much slower than they speak in Spain. I'm gonna give it my best shot, so hopefully people are happy and not embarrassed for me and my mediocre grammar. I've been before but it's been almost 25 years and I was a lot more fluent then.
Think you miscolored Iceland, pretty sure most natives fall under the "Wait you learned a single word of Icelandic? You're pretty cool for a tourist.."
Btw I only understand some vocabulary and am still learning grammer so I won't understand anyone responding in japanese unless I know that specific bit of grammer and vocabulary
Yeah, not my experience with Germany and English-speaking folk. Last time I was there I had to use Google Translate and a lot of hand waving to purchase U-bahn ticket. My friend living there had a doctor downright refuse to read her results to her because she had a weird accent while speaking German.
I remember one time I was at a resort in Mexico and I asked reddit how service workers feel when foreign guests start speaking their language. Don’t remember what the hive mind said.
All I know is I asked for my drinks muy fuerte and I didn’t feel anything until I switched to cerveza. I watched them pour, I’m pretty sure the booze was watered down.
Someone's never been to Germany. The only people I met who spoke English were a guy working in burger king who sounded like the terminator, and a baked teenager.
The 10 phrases I remembered from highschool did a lot of heavy lifting.