No WAN Show this week. The streak has ended.
"Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience."
I'm glad they recognize the gravity of the situation and are treating this as a true existential moment for the company.
As much as I like WAN show, it does seem a bit symptomatic of the overwork. They go until after midnight on a Friday night? And frequently they call someone who should be home?
Merch messages have metastasized it a bit. Maybe they should just prerecord it during work hours, and answer merch messages from the previous week? Would be less interactive, but most of the curated merch messages seem to be general questions anyway, rather than topic specific questions? They could still automatically show current merch messages in the banner as the video goes live?
I at least hope they are either paying Dan overtime or letting him shift his hours around.
Yup, agreed. In isolation, working late or unusual hours is not bad, but with the other things going on, perhaps worth them stepping back and evaluating if it's the right thing to do.
I doubt Colton has an on-call agreement to cover him getting call up on the show.
I am currently doing on-call work, I get a daily lump sum to hold the phone, and a fixed call out sum of I get called out. There are lots of different arrangements it seems. Compensation and balance is key though
Hope Dan is getting reimbursed as well, though if Madison's claim about time off is to be believed, I don't have much confidence in that.
A bit of a side tangent, but the way Linus talks to Dan has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. There's jokey "Dan wants me to do this but I'm gonna do this instead" banter that's ok but there are times where Linus just seems to openly disregard Dan and blame him for his own fuckups on the show. Not trying to be a parasocial Andy here but it does make the podcast harder to listen to, imo.
Linus has this attitude with everyone. The reason you see it more with Dan is because it's Live.
He has an attitude problem
It's really off-putting to me too, even if it was truly fake banter. And I'm no longer sure it's even mostly fake banter.
I know what you mean. Without knowing their personal relationship it can seem a bit cruel at times.
Another symptom of the overwork is that I believe they're late to start most weeks?
They've been using polls for a lot for a while now - even things that were recently criticized like the Framework investment, was originally a poll on WAN asking how the audience felt about the ethical implications of that investment. And whether the audience thought it was acceptable so long as they always disclaim that Linus is a Framework investor during coverage of other laptops. To me it kinda makes sense how they could get so caught up in an echo chamber of die-hard fans who encourage them into things that people who aren't in that core fan group see as problematic or at least ethically questionable. I see using fans to guide decision making as one of the root problems at LTT, because fans, pretty much by definition, already think you can do no wrong, and will often be blind to the way things look to a broader audience.
They probably had some floatplane exclusives ready to go pre- scheduled. Asking about that from their paying customers honestly seems fair.
Little different for being paying outright for the content I guess.
how else do you expect him to read the room and know not to make sex jokes or steal auction shit that isnt his.
They had exclusives already produced, uploaded and scheduled to go live, so no actual work to release them. The poll was if they should let those go ahead or hold them back in the spirit of the break.
Haha. I saw what you did there. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
If they continue it meant they value tradition more than righting the wrongs. Remember that it's deep seated tradition that allowed the work culture to fester in the first place.
Not to mention all the chats would be bombarded.
Lastly I think Dan deserves a break.
Good. They need to take this shit seriously. This could be (imo should be) the end of LTT.
Why should it be the end of LTT? That's so not constructive! We should strive toward forcing a change at the company, but not ending its existence! There are many people employed there, and whatever has occurred regarding Madison, only a fraction of those working there 9 to 5 will have had anything to do with it.
I'm not in the crowd of should be, and I'm all for second chances. But, I could see why someone wouldn't want Linus, and a company under his name, to not be successful because of who he is and what's happening. Liking a product but not the person behind it is ok. Making a choice not to support either is also ok.
Does anyone have any suitable "alternatives" in podcasts which are similar to the WAN Show in atmosphere? (As in: longer conversations about tech-adjecent topics) I don't feel comfortable wanting to go near LMG's content (my only consistent watching was the WAN Show to be frank) after these discoveries.
Probably the level 1 techs various shows, used to be one big thing but now I think they release different "categories" each day or something, it's been a while since I've watched them, damn you YouTube messing with my feed.
Jay-Z 2 cents has a pod called RTFM if you like his content. Not necessarily the same but still in the tech world.
The Waveform podcast is pretty decent. It's MKBHD's podcast.
I would suggest you check out Smashing Security. Although it doesn't have the variable length that WAN Show has, it's worth a listen.
Kinda bummed but also a good choice unless it was Luke and someone else.
Don't really need Linus opening his mouth right now.
Tarren would be interesting, but I suspect he is probably very hesitant to go live and unfiltered. He has seen how that worked for his predecessor :/
WAN Show's real appeal (to me, at least) has always been the unfiltered and real time conversations. Though as of late, those conversations have been more about creating controversy then real discussion 😐