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What is with everyone's obsession, government or company, to moderate the web. It's seriously depressing and exhausting.

The Internet’s been ubiquitous for more than two decades now, and the people writing laws to regulate it in most democracies still lack even a high-level understanding about how it and the software they use to access it works. They also seem to go out of their way to avoid working with anyone who actually does know how to implement safety measures in less dangerous or exploitable ways. It’s inexcusable.

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Come on, do your thing french people! We know you want to!

How do they propose to enforce this, when browsers are free and open-source and can easily be downloaded from hosts outside of France?

this is like preventing your car from driving you to the bank so you cant rob it

WTF?! „… force browser providers to create the means to mandatorily block websites present on a government provided list.“

Today it’s some terrorist / pedophile / fraudulent site, tomorrow it could be some opposition, news or whatever could be disliked site on that list.

Senile boomers try to do impossible things in tech because stupid. Censorship is stupid, Google and French goverment hand in hand trying to destroy the free and open internet.

Do they have this saying in France: "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" ? These days, everyone seems so intent on breaking what we have that at the end I'm not sure what we're going to have left.

Just block it at the ISP who puts this feature into the actual browser has this country even used the web before???

whipped up a quick meme

I could see Mozilla being forced to comply and then letting it be known that if you delete a certain part of the firefox source and recompile, it goes away.

I hate that these articles are always couched in excusatory language like, "While motivated by a legitimate concern..."

These people are not your friends, they're your enemies. Don't accept their frame in the argument.

They indicted 7 people for Terrorism last year because they encrypted their disks, used tail as their OS and signal for communication.

I knew those Fr*nch were up to something 😡

I guess from the perspective of lawmakers, it's no different requiring browsers to not display certain sites than requiring book stores to not sell certain books.

I can even see the "logic" in that to a degree, especially if the people talking about it are rather tech averse.

Jesus France is really fucking over their people aren't they?

here's the proposed bill btw https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/dossierlegislatif/JORFDOLE000047533100/

How is this different to saying "No meetings of groups of people in person to share thoughts, views, agree trades or have an argument"? Happens in the pubs every night.

Aside this being extremely fucked up. Why do they even feel the need? I've been online most my life and have never been defrauded. Are there a shit ton of people in France getting scammed by stupid websites? Did they look at China and go, yes plz? Some authoritarian shit and extremely dangerous. Who's going to be the fuck that decides which sites to block?

How would they enforce this on open source projects without companies behind them?

Fuck you France

No country is fighting as hard against poverty as they are against piracy.

that is bizarre. like they goin to take down any fork they dont? and who among the french will be able to read all the english github pages?

What happened to parental responsibility?

Even if firefox complies, I am sure a fork will be made that will disable the in-browser censorship. That is the good thing about FOSS.

Is Mozilla 100% forced to comply with this? What's to stop them from dropping their French presence and keep serving the browser unaltered on the public web? Do they also then get added to the ban list?

The thought behind this is alarming and worrying, but the mechanism of action seems shoddy and not thought out at all.

Institutions are becoming irrelevant due to the power of tech and this one of their reactions.

What's a petition going to do? Is there any evidence that a bunch of people signing a petition is any more effective than a bunch of people just asking?

Doesn’t firefox have the option to not officially be supported in france? Why are they asserting that they would automatically obey?

How many times did internet petitions actually changed something

Alright, maybe you guys starting a sixth republic is not that bad of an idea.

Chromium browsers: “this is fine, stock market is best market”

Dear France, wake tf up.

How long till other countries try to implement it?

Common French government L. You guys seem to not be able to catch a break. :(

Fortunately, open source doesn't give as shit about your silly, #fascist laws #France.

This government is getting dumber every day. Goddammit.

So the french govt is too lazy to censor on its own.

If i was a hacker, i would penetrate their system ( shouldn't be that hard as most if their operating system are old, and supervised by even older persons and methods), deface their website to inform the population, and ask to take back their ideas as a ransom for not divulging some weird shit they must have on their computers.

What websites and for what purpose does gov want to be censored?

The result of this should be all of these businesses abandoning France as a market.

More and more it looks like we would be better off of we restricted American companies from operating overseas at all.

manu

nice

Makes sense

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/

Mozilla wants to control the censorship so can't let any other do it

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I don't trust mozilla.