California officer shoots and kills boy, 15, holding gardening tool

Lacy said the family also reported that after the shooting, the family was forced out of the home while officers “rummaged through their house looking for any justification for shooting and killing Ryan”.

Not a good look.

I didn't even have to open the article to see the boy's skin color. And I'm not remotely shocked.

There are great questions as to whether it was appropriate to use deadly force against a 15-year-old autistic kid who was having an episode,

Another child murdered.

I will not shed a single tear for when cops get shot and killed.

Cops killing children dealing with mental help episodes and get rewarded with more funding is something that makes me sick. Body Cam footage shouldn't depend on if cops feel like releasing it should be sent to an independent party automatically. RIP Ryan.

So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense... Do you think the criminal justice system will hand-wave it away as easily as this?

For some reason this is unpopular, but I don't think a police officer should be allowed to remove their firearm from its holster until actual assault has occurred, unless non-police citizens are in danger.

A cop merely being scared should never be a reason somebody dies.

If you can't handle the pressure, don't be a fucking cop.

This piece of shit couldn't fight a 15 year old with a hoe? What a coward. One gut punch and the kid would have folded like a lawn chair.

Let's list all items that do not look like a gun during a police encounter. I'll start:

Small puppy Couch Basketball Bucket full of fruit Ice

I can't think of anymore at the moment. There's bound to be one or two other items.

Poor kid must have been planting oak trees. The pig thought they were preventing a future massacre.

So for context my local PD dealt with a fine gentleman who attacked a security guard in his car dual wielding a hatchet and metal pipe. They spent several hours trying to talk him down before charging him with a shield and arresting him without much further ado. If you guessed he was white you guessed correctly.

Society failed this boy. More spending on medical research, and care could have prevented this event. But instead we spend way more money on killing more people in other countries. And the medical research could help those who serve in the military as well. But no, must cut those costs as much as posdible.

ACAB

Whatever happened to tasers? I guess it's not that convenient for the police to have someone capable of suing back, makes one wonder how many cases aren't able to get the attention this kid is.

Thugs with badges.

I saw the body cam, that kid was charging at the cop, he wasn't just sitting in his front lawn taking care of some flowers. The only real question I have is what was that cop doing there in the first place?

If you can't disarm a 15 year old kid, maybe you should find another job?

Yep, right up there with that Florida cop freaking out over falling acorns or something.

You can see the video of the incident here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/deputies-fatally-shoot-15-year-old-who-allegedly-charged-them-while-armed-in-apple-valley/

A gardening tool?

The plot thickens.

Title is highly misleading, but that's to be expected of The Guardian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZgNAa2sXSc

The bodycam footage has been released and the shooting was clearly justified.

I've seen enough body cam incidents to know the papers can say one thing and events revealed later by the footage depict another. General police guidance of use of lethal force is when there is an imminent danger to safety so it boils down to whether the kid charged a cop or a member of his family or not.

Kid ran towards the officer with an axe, don't run towards someone with an axe if they have a gun.

You know that black women have a higher murder rate than white men in every age group. So, when you hear the 50% per capita murder rate for the black population meaning that about 4 other population groups have to make up the remaining 50%.

Police interfering with the blacks territorial show of dominance is culturally inappropriate. Shame on the police for involving themselves in culture shaming and probably worse.

The Blacks should just be allowed to roam free and do what they want as nature directs them.

Here a lady was going through a 90% black school and neighborhood disobeying the pride of the community.

The show of dominance was of course possibly fatal for the submissive "white" girl.

https://vidmax.com/video/226695-disturbing-footage-shows-female-teen-getting-her-skull-bashed-in-by-another-female-outside-st-louis-highschool-in-serious-condition-at-hospital

But, it is natural that when a new group enters your neighborhood that an order has to be established first.

TLDR: What is the "5 foot garden tool"? That's all I want to know!

So many details and blame thrown about, but suddenly vague on "gardening tool?" It was 5 feet of something. A rake? A scythe? A stick?

It sort of matters what is in your hands when you approach police; not that that's ever a good idea. Even with a disability, he could be dangerous.

I'm astounded by The Guardian. How does an article explain is such detail the events of an altercation and aftermath yet space so terribly on such basic information?