Why not call for a full Russian withdrawl instead? Why should the defenders of their homeland be the ones to surrender?
The fact that a former Superpower was not able to roll Ukraine in the first 10 days, 100 days, what is it now? 745 days... yeah. It's time for Russia to get out.
Pope Francis really all over the board with political beliefs, the dude went from liberal ally gay marriage officiator to conservative facebooker in record time.
I kick in your front door and kill two of your kids. I then plant mines at the entrances to your living room and kitchen, eat all the food from the refrigerator and shoot at you if you try to come downstairs. You need to end this aggression, it's unseemly and it's getting people hurt. Just cede the living room and the kitchen, you wouldn't want to escalate things. Also I can't help but notice that your basement and upstairs bathroom are looking pretty liberateable.
had used the term white flag “to indicate a cessation of hostilities, a truce reached with the courage of negotiation”. He repeated the pontiff’s call for a “diplomatic solution in search of a just and lasting peace”
That's kinda hard when Russia bombs humanitary corridors, ceasefire equals rearm and regroup and nothing else, and the last diplomatic solution was used as toilet paper to start the current war.
Russian state TV host Vladimir Solovyov berated Pope Francis for "sticking his nose where it does not belong" and suggesting negotiations. Solovyov said that Russia has no interest in negotiations and does not recognize the Pope as a spiritual leader....so I guess the pope should wave the white flag...
When the Pope allows all sexual abusers in the Faith be prosecuted and held accountable for their disgusting and morally evil crimes then maybe I'll give a fuck what he has to say about anything. Out of touch old man doesn't get to protect kiddy fiddlers and then try and preach to others.
The Ukrainians should capitulate like the Franks at Poitiers or the Venetians at the Battle of Lepanto, or the Austrians at the Battle of Vienna. Perhaps if the Ukranians were Catholic, the Pope might support their resistance more.
Let's just take that white flag, add a blue stripe in the middle, and give it to the Russians to raise.
Oh wait, they would go to jail. Well let's help them make the upcoming elections actually fair for once.
Oh wait, that would be the 2020 Belarusian protests all over again. Well let's just simply wait until we get a new Pope. Surely it can't take too long.
Pope Francis has been criticised after saying Ukraine should have the courage of the “white flag” and negotiate an end to the war with Russia.
Some politicians and commentators in Europe reacted with anger after the pontiff appeared to stay silent on Russia’s crimes as aggressor in the invasion, which has killed tens of thousands, and placed the onus on Ukraine to make peace.
Dennis Radtke, a German Christian Democrat MEP, said the word “shameful” could be used to describe the pope’s comments.
In an interview broadcast on Saturday by Swiss television, but which the Vatican said was conducted in February, the pontiff urged parties in the Ukraine war to “have the courage to negotiate”, and do so “before things get worse”.
The Vatican’s director of communications, Matteo Bruni, issued a statement seeking to clarify the pope’s words.
He said Francis had used the term white flag “to indicate a cessation of hostilities, a truce reached with the courage of negotiation”.
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Pope doesn't recognize the Autocephaly of the Ukrainian church as much as the Moscow Patriarch doesn't. There isn't a great amount of support coming from the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches in Ukraine.
Let's take bets: How long before The President of Ukraine issues the following public statement: "Pope Francis... We Ukranians have heard your suggestion, and propose a trade. We'll raise our white flag to Russia, when every last one of your priests permanently lays off the boy raping, and all your nuns start diddling each other, instead of all those little girls who've ended up in their clutches"
That would honestly be the smart thing to do if they want to stop losing lives.
Nobody expects Ukraine to win except useful idiots on these forums. Every military strategist has said Ukraine is a good investment for the West. They mean it's better for Ukrainians to die fighting Russia than it is for NATO soldiers.
And they're right. The only sad part are those who are duped into believing they have a chance at winning and end up losing their lives in the process.