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When you're writing a song, how do you know it isn't just a song you've heard before but don't recognise?

I'm currently in the process of writing a song. I've got a tune and I'm putting the lyrics together but I'm always concerned that any tune I think of might just be another song I've heard somewhere randomly that I don't remember hearing.

Do I just have a shitty memory or is this a problem that other people have too?

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  • Don't worry about it. There are only so many progressions. Everything else is just variations within them, with bass lines, melodies and rhythms.

  • I simply don't think about it. If Chino Moreno can get away with using the chorus chord progression of "Hit Me Baby" in one of his songs and the most that happens is laughter about it in the comment section, it's not an issue.

    Alternatively, there is nothing new under the sun. Music has seven fundamental notes that can only be arranged so many different ways and still sound pleasing to the ear. It's an inevitability that somewhere, you're going to use the same chord progressions as thousands if not hundreds of thousands of other composers, you're gonna write the same licks, you're gonna play the same riffs. The difference is in atmosphere, genre, and performance. Don't stress it too much.

    • Deftones have so much staying power, like they keep making good stuff after 30+ years now. I know Koi no Yokan is like over a decade old, but it's so good, and that was wayyy after their popularity peak.

  • It's normal.

    Especially if you're writing in a popular style, tons of musicians just use the same chord progressions over and over .

    Once you start layering things on the melody, it's pretty unlikely that it will resemble anything too closely.

    As long long as you're just using your own creativity, I think it's very unlikely you'll just clone a song.

    If you're really worried about it, you can just change a few notes in the melody on the page in a way that you wouldn't think to sing "naturally"

  • It is a problem for other people too, but I would argue it's a very small insignificant one. Unless you're ripping off an entire song and it's not parody, you're fine.

  • I'm not a song writer but it seems to me a lots of songs can share some similar chord progression without being in any way the same. It can be more or less obvious.

    I feel like, as we're immersed into music, when creating music what we hear in our head can and will be influenced. It probably should be too.

    Because even so, you have more than one influence, you don't put them like anyone else and that's where you start putting something that's you, into it.

    But to me that also mean what you feel is not only normal for a song writer, but also to any creative process.

    I myself got quite obsessed at some point with this question of what is "original", what is creation.

    It's pretty philosophical though, on a more practical point of view the best solution is to be learn to recognize your influences in general, and start to build your own style from them. Then you'll know even if one melody resembled another it's still your song. That takes a good level of expertise to define yourself though, and is never really fixed, wich will mean the question can come back often.

  • You’ll constantly be influenced by what you listen to. If the rhythm and everything really feels that way I’d probably be humming it to Siri or google to have it find the song.

  • Sing the memory into some sort of AI music finder and see if it finds anything the same. If it doesn't, or you're sure you've never heard the song it produces, your tune is probably genuinely yours.

  • Same here. A few song ideas pop into my head, and then weeks later I realize that I'm basically unknowingly stealing a melody from someone else.

    This could be a problem once I start my music career. Because copyright.

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