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  • So I just watched the entire team apologize for Linus and then Linus proceeded to attempt to gaslight everyone watching.

    Fuck this guy.

    • Yeah, I feel now it is out that he is a narcissist and it just feels so obvious. He is gaslighting everyone and people try to clean up after him, that's just symptomatic. He won't change, he will maybe get managed better by the people around him to reduce the damage. But there isn't anything else to hope for.

  • IMO a good answer and directly adresses my biggest stated problem of "we know stuff goes wrong, but we don't care about them" (see https://lemmings.world/comment/1218294)

    The thing about Madison: if true it's very concerning, but for now it's only one person who told about these problems and I don't know her enough to trust her like that without proof. In contrast: I trust GN and they showed proof

    But that doesn't mean you should ignore these accusations and I would like to see an answer from LMG.

    This is MY opinion on this matter. Your opinion may vary!

    • Re: Madison, she sprinkled a bunch of non-issues (edit: I don't mean to downplay the more serious issues she raises! I'm concerned that this would leave room for others to do so) or things that are normal for companies that aren’t super huge- the journal/lined paper debacle for example. Of course the company focused on profit is going to ask you to make do with essentially the same thing. That’s super normal.

      Being asked to manage the OF despite objections isn’t super bad when you are literally hired just to do social media. It’s unpleasant, but most jobs are going to have unpleasant moments. At a similar pay scale, I’ve been required to go into homes where folks had COVID. Coworkers have been shot at. I’ve seen things I really would have preferred not to. No job is perfectly sane in that sense.

      Some of the issues where Madison said “they wanted me to do x and I couldn’t because y” (red footage editing/ram comes to mind) feel like issues where she would be told something, then would vent in her head instead of going “hey, I don’t have enough ram to edit that footage!” - something I’ve encountered a ton with less experienced (in a business sense, not skill) hires.

      The managerial and behavioral issues she brings up are awful but not entirely surprising given the type of folk who stick around there. It indicates a systemic issue and that usually happens due to a lack of oversight and course-correction, or outright malicious management. I’m hopeful that it’s the former.

      Last but not least, she repeatedly states it was her dream job. This is an experience that should hopefully show her to never meet your heroes! Dream jobs usually suck unless you get lucky, because they have lots of rough edges. Hopefully she’s doing something that brings her more joy now.

      • You can't force a woman to manage an OF account against her will, knowing VERY WELL what she'll be exposed to. That's fucked up.

      • I feel that your post is belittling a situation that, as narrated, is straight up mobbing and bullying, only acknowledging it in a small paragraph which I feel boils down to a dismissive "awful but only maybe malicious, probably just lack of oversight", while the rest of your comment tries to find excuses and normalizing something that is not.

        These:

        I was asked about my sexual history, my boyfriends sexual history, "how I liked to fuck".

        I was told that certain issues were "sexual tension" and I should just "take the co-worker out on a coffee date to ease it out"

        I was told I was chunky, fat, ugly, stupid. I was called "retarded" I was called a "faggot"

        My work was called "dogs--t" I was called "incompetent".

        "I think the reason you try to be funny, is because you lack any other skills." smiled then walked away.

        I watched co-workers get what I had asked for weeks before they did. It took 2 months to get mine.

        Also apparently some managers didn't like me because I "hadn't gotten drunk with them before" Which was said in that haha just jokin (but actually I'm serious) tone

        Are nor normal nor acceptable: for anyone who is in a corporation where this is common place: take a step back and understand that it is not healthy for you, bad power dynamics are a real thing and the abuse of them sometimes can feel normal, especially in small businesses that get a sudden explosive growth. And I don't even want to go into her self harming to get a day off.

        You can say it was probably a single person, but the lack of action by management with phrases like "change your priorities", "put on your big girl pants" and stuff like that makes it a Company issue, Company which indirectly accept and endorse that kind of treatment: they being so against unionizing sincerely gets a whole other meaning read under this light.

        The notebook case is self evidence of it all: A small thing that normally wouldn't be anything important, but compounded with the stressful environment got emotionally distressful. The fact that such a small thing has stayed with her so long should tell you that she was really not in an healthy mental state.

        I don't personally care about the whole LTT fiasco, as an uninterested spectator it's fun to watch from the outside and then change channel, a blip in the media world that will most likely blow down in a couple of weeks. But reading how these actions are belittled is really distressing. Bullying is not normal, and it should never be accepted. Ever.

        The full thread for whoever missed it: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

      • At a similar pay scale, I’ve been required to go into homes where folks had COVID. Coworkers have been shot at. I’ve seen things I really would have preferred not to. No job is perfectly sane in that sense.

        American? Because this is not normal up here in Canada.

      • Hold up...LMG has an OF? Why? Is Linus getting his dick out to show the size of their fucking screwdriver?

    • I think this is the most sane opinion here really; and it's one I share...

      Like, alright, they screwed up; we don't need to have a riot about it. I've followed these guys for a while, they seem genuine, they're humans, I think they deserve a chance.

      It feels like a lot of people who don't know "how Linus is" or the history of the company getting upset and grabbing their pitch fork a bit too quickly.

  • I don't know, Linus is still trying to excuse and justify. It would seem taking him out of the driver's seat was the right call. As for the rest, they are responding because their backs are against the wall. Time will tell if they will really make any changes.

  • ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…’

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