12mo ago

Time to bring that back

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That literally isn't true. There's an entire separate sin for that called greed.
- Very true but in the end it's all just marketing religion to the poor. Look at those sinners over there eating fantastic meals and living in lavish estates. If you get a little extra money instead of living in nicer houses or eating better food, you should really be donating that.
  
  That's kind of a strawman considering that's not at all what Christianity says. Jesus was in favour of taxing the wealthy and talked shit about the rich all the time. You ever hear the story where he trashed a temple because people had set up a gift shop in it? Or the time he said "it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven".
  Christianity caught on because it was popular with the poor.
- Well, every sin is just about selfishness if you think about it long enough.
  
  not really, every sin is about pride. It's a fine but significant distinction. I.e. a purely selfish person has no reason to be envious in a distinct sense from being greedy.
- Wanting more vs having more. Not the same.

I don't think that's true, unless someone wants to find a better source. But the bible passages listed on Wikipedia are pretty clearly about food.
- Wow there are some silly reasons for gluttony:
  Eating at the wrong time
  Wanting a particular food
  Enhancing taste of food
  Enjoying taste of food
  Having opinions about food preparation
  Liking Eating food
  Making bad trades for food
  Although some of these feel made up. Someone doing one of these and then eventually dying doesn't mean it was caused by gluttony, but there are examples in the wiki where that's the case. Others feel like cases of 'committing other sins while interacting with food or while it is around' and someone tried to make it about the food
  
  Yeah, these are made up. The Bible is a higher authority than the opinions of saints.
  Eating before the time of meals.
  This is specifically for eating before a meal. But 1 Corinthians 11:34 says that if you're hungry, you should eat at home before a group meal so that you're not hogging food at the meal.
  Seeking better quality foods.
  The example given was the Israelites complaining about the food they were given. That doesn't mean you can't take food you have access to.
  Preparing food better.
  Matthew 5:13 - "But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor?" Jesus clearly saw the value in seasoning.
  Eating more than you need.
  It is true that you should eat in moderation. I don't know if it's a sin, but Proverbs has a few things to say about it. But the example given here was Sodom, whose sins included gluttony. Or rather, gluttony while there were poor people. Overeating at the expense of others is different from just overeating.
  Taking food too eagerly.
  If it's to the point of idolizing food (prioritizing it over God and His causes,) then yes. But if you're at a friend's house and they bring out mac & cheese and you cheer, there's nothing wrong with that. Y'know, as long as you're not being crazy like snatching it out of their hands.
  
  My god Gordon Ramsey will be furious with that list.
  
  Those are all careful designed to control people in one way or another. Tired of people so concerned by food that it's all they talk about while you keep it all? Say the magic man in the sky made it illegal

Deadly sins are not in bible, but a later invention in catholic church
- Same thing with naming the wise men. The Catholic Church made up a ton of stuff.
  
  Whate are their names?
  
  Yeah, they written multiple books about it
- I think the closest thing is Proverbs 6:16-19,(went with... NIV I guess?) Haughty eyes A false/lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood A heart that devises wicked schemes Feet that are quick to rush to evil False witness who pours out lies And... a person who sturs up conflict in the community.
  I grew up JW so NWT had different wording, but most of those are lies, attitude, and people who start shit. The most specific one would be the innocent murder and lying ones.
- So, like avada kedavra?
  
  More like hocus popus

Gotta remember that back when the things that make up the Bible were written, fat people were pretty synonymous with wealth. Hard to get fat when you barely have any food.
- Fat ladies were prized possessions as they were a sign of nobility.
- That's still the case in many poorer countries.
  
  depends on how poor, there are also a lot of poor countries with obesity problems, because people there can only afford trash like fast food

This is unfortunately not true, but like the Bible the deadly sins were made up. An omnipresent being with no concept of humanity and life wouldn’t give two sharts if you had some ice cream twice in a day
- An omnipresent being with no concept of humanity and life
  Whose Bible were you reading?
  
  Some Christian denominations don't follow the trinity and consider Jesus and God as completely separate beings, with Jesus being the only creation God did without going through Jesus (only begotten son). For anyone who learned based on that, God couldn't possibly have experienced human life, though at least the ones I'm familiar with God still uses Jesus as more the judge than himself.

A bit of a tangent but the year of jubilee is an interesting concept in the Torah. The idea is every 49 years they did an economic reset. Slaves were freed, debts forgiven, and land returned.
Unsurprisingly the concept was very appealing to enslaved people. During the US Civil War, many enslaved folks used it as a justification and rallying cry to escape to the north. In Defense of Looting argues that this was one of the most effective instances of mass political theft in history. This also had the effect of hollowing out the South's economy, swelling the North's military ranks, and scaring the shit out of racists everywhere.
I don't think reconstruction would have gone as far as it did without this mass political action and the power it gave formerly enslaved people.

Moses originally had 3 tablets with the divine Commandments, but broke one in anger. A disciple would later recover a fragment, containing the start of the 13th Commandment: XIII THOU SHALT LIGMA...
- Ligma?
  
  It's similar to updog
- It’s so sad that Steve Jobs died of divine retribution
  
  Who the hell is Steve Jobs?
- Thou shalt ligma what?
- There really is a story about him breaking the old laws in anger at the worship of a golden calf and bringing new laws.
  Such a coincidence that story happened to parallel the alleged reforms of Josiah who got rid of the golden calf worship in Bethel and Dan while instituting new laws he 'discovered' excavating the temple.
  God (or at least his editors) truly do work in mysterious ways

Yo mama

You mean which rulers decided peasants eating enough was a sin.

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