You’ve heard of bike gutters, get ready for people gutters!
You’ve heard of bike gutters, get ready for people gutters!
You’ve heard of bike gutters, get ready for people gutters!
SUV, Truck, SUV, SUV, SUV, SUV, sedan, SUV, SUV, SUV, SUV.
The culture problem around big vehicles we've created with bad regulation and aggressive marketing is depressing.
It isn't just a culture problem, it's a tragedy of the commons.
When you're surrounded by giant vehicles, the only way to be feel safe and see the road is to have a giant vehicle.
The only way to feel safe. The really big ego-support vehicles are no safer than a subcompact to be inside of, but they are far more likely to kill your own family.
That's not the tragedy of the commons, and that's not why everyone drives turboencabulators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
It is, I shit you not, a cold war tariff on fucking chickens. There's some other shit that's glommed on over the centuries, but the mad-science breeding program to create a pickup truck big enough to swallow the sun started with a stupid trade dispute over chickens between the krauts, the frogs, and the yanks.
it’s a tragedy of the commons.
A gentle heads up that the guy who coined that term was a huge piece of shit, and was almost certainly wrong.
It's funny too that SUVs and trucks also have themselves gotten bigger. I own an 11 year old SUV and I feel dwarfed on the road by every other new SUV I see. Trucks are insane too, some are so big they don't fit in regular parking spots. Compare that to older pickups with the same bed space that are smaller than some sedans.
Failed state which retains cold war revenge tax.
Its deadly.
So glad they put that thick protective white line there so I know I won’t be hit 🥰
It’ll be super protective when it snows!
Ironically enough, this is how the pavements are in the ski resort I live in. It's a "shared zone", pedestrians have the same rights as vehicles. It slows everyone down because nobody knows when the next braying snowboarder trust-fund baby is going to stagger out in front of you.
Oh and as for the snow, we have adorable little mini snowploughs for the pedestrian bit
Edit to add pic -
Of course it uploaded upside down
And the snow will pile up on that lane, because the street needs to be free and nothing else.
If you let them out unsupervised, I'm calling the cops!
kids don't play outside because they don't want their last moments on this earth to be recorded with this in the corner
If you are walking you're either poor or up to no good, in both cases we don't want you around these parts. Oh, your kids need to walk? Don't be lazy and DRIVE them where they need to go!
Don’t be lazy and DRIVE
For the briefest of moments I felt a spark of blinding hot rage in my heart. Now I am left with the lingering feeling of wanting to smash my head against a rock.
Thank you for that experience.
use a bike with a baby seat or passenger seat instead of driving
Why even allow people in this neighborhood? Just have cars and no people
Don't worry, self driving cars will get us there eventually
Megatron, is that you?
This what I hate about North America. Non walkable neighbourhoods.
Weirdly enough it is a walkable neighborhood legit this is the entire street in the picture, for some reason they decided to paint these people lanes instead of just leaving it.
There is no pavement/sidewalk...
Hardly walkable
sharing the road with cars is not walkable
Can you believe it that some see walkable neighbourhoods as a conspiracy? I just can’t wrap my head around why…
Which is funny because anti-communism and anti-unionism were factors in the design layout of the American suburb...
https://www.e-flux.com/architecture/workplace/430312/shelter-against-communism/
Y'all can't hear it because I built a deep subterranean insulated bunker to protect the local ecosystem from the noice, but I am screaming "I HATE LIVING IN THIS FUCKING NIGHTMARE SOCIETY" over and over and over again, as I am want to do.
Next they'll eliminate the stripe and put up share-the-road signs with the stick figure
And the carbrains get mad about it because they don't want to share the road because that's communism
Is that a pedestrian symbol or the chalk outline of a pedestrian who got hit?
Yes.
Must be a pedestrian symbol. If it was a chalk outline, it would stretch for two blocks.
The presence of the paint makes this nightmare area more walkable than plenty of places in the Failed States of America. I once had the misfortune of living in a place where the presence (or much more often, absence) of sidewalk was completely up to the owner of the property the stretch of road in question abutted. The rare property owner who chose to add sidewalk created a completely useless, disconnected decoration.
Lots of cities mandate new construction has to build sidewalks in zones without any. I think the idea is that eventually, as long as the sidewalk is up to code, new buildings will handle adding sidewalk instead of the city.
It's a very long term plan that makes these long term idiotic stretches, but it's not the worst way to do something that would otherwise not happen.
Wow it’s like you guys are trying as hard as possible to not put in sidewalks.
Soooo...a sidewalk without the extra pavement?
And not an inch of lawn was sacrificed
fuck lawns. uproot that shit and grow vegetables. or weed. or both
Wow, I sure am glad that the kerb is there to protect those blades of grass!
Unrealistic beauty standards. The corset is the reason they died.
Who would use this? Wouldn't you either walk on the grass or clearly in the middle of the street?
This is an American suburban. The petite burgerosie living in those houses would shoot your or call the cops to shoot you for walking on their lawns, or run you over with a Ford F 69,000 turbo jumbulator hepta-cab ultra-pickup if you walked in the street.
(this might not be an American suburb. It's hard to tell. All suburbs exist in a discrete liminal hell dimension)
I'd walk on the grass, the resistance is good for the muscles.
What dystopian fuckery is this?
Idk. We have similar things around here for when they want to add more walkable spaces and less space for cars but they cannot or do not have the money for a full walkable path. Although usually they put some plastic bollards to avoid people parking or stopping on it.
They ain't bad, usually is in town and the max speed is 20 - 30 Km/h with the exception of main roads inside the town/city which is 50 Km/h. So although a proper sidewalk would be better they ain't bad and they are quick to install.
Except that they are bad if you consider safety and convenience of pedestrians. It is a testimonial of terrible planning in the first hand and the most 'I don't give a shit' solution second hand.
Yeah, it seems like there should be something to separate the vehicle traffic from the pedestrian traffic though. Like some kind of low concrete barrier that would actually curb an errant car's trajectory and direct it back on to the road.
Where I live people will park their tanks trucks in the driveway and block the sidewalk. At least they won't be able to do that here, but I wouldn't be surprised if people just start parallel parking on the people gutter
Imagine seeing this when house hunting and still buying the house. You'd have to have worms in your brain to want one of these ugly McMansions with no sidewalk
More like it was a guy who got flattened by a car and got painted over, because that's exactly what's going to happen if you try and walk there
Who the hell designed this? I want to see the person who made this burn in hell
They are probably laughing on their yacht right now.
I keep seeing joggers in my area choosing the bike lane over the sidewalk, presumably because asphalt is softer than concrete sidewalks. If paving a ped lane next to the bike lane is what it takes to isolate these wrong-way bike-lane-jogging scufflaws, then let's just do it and be done with it. We can cannibalize a car lane to make it happen. >:-)
Sidewalks in car-brained areas are super dangerous to jog on. People backing out of their driveway or turning across the road at 10-20km/h without looking. Trip hazards. Ankle destroying driveway cutouts or curved surfsces. Uneven grading.
You've heard of bike gutters
No I haven't.
Replace the pedestrian with a bike and you have bike gutter
I think that's a "cycle lane" everywhere else.
Well, yeah, I figured that out. I was just pointing out that not everyone has encountered the term before.
And of course every car there is a suburban assault vehicle too.
Poor Polish village style infrastrucutre, now in your nearest city! (Authentic hole ridden roads not included)
What hell would this be to walk in, jesus christ...
Yo that's unreal
Sidewalks would interrupt my precious lawn!
Time for a car gulag. Garage gulag? Garlag? Gulage?
You can be lying inside this line just like that guy!
I’m guessing they call this “multiuse”? And I’m guessing it gets filled with parked cars immediately.
They saw people walking in the road because there are no sidewalks and decided to paint a line, brilliant, job well done.
In my opinion, if this was done in a community that was not designed for sidewalks (the house are very close to the curb), then it's better than nothing. I'd like to see some bollards or post reflectors or something, but at least there is some effort.
On the other hand, if this is a new community and this is the sidewalk "solution" then fuck them.
Ideally we would have a car free utopia, but that doesn't happen overnight, so any step forward, even if it's a shuffle, is good, I think.
Each house has a driveway long enough to park in. Remove the pointless front lawn and driveway, switch to on-street parking, narrow the absurdly wide road a bit, and BAM, you got enough space for sidewalks, bike lanes, and trees. There is PLENTY of space on this street for everyone.
Well sure, if you were designing from scratch, but with existing neighborhoods, the city may not have the necessary right-of-way rights to do that, so what they've done here may be the only option, even if it could be executed better.
My point is that working to make cars less necessary is a process and if the only way a city can add a "sidewalk" is by carving it out of the existing road, then so be it. After all, by making some of the road devoted to pedestrians only, we are effectively reclaiming space back from cars, right? Isn't that a good thing?
if lines can keep out sea bears, obviously they can keep out these pesky pedestrians from getting in front of my SUV!
It's the Sea Rhinos you should be more concerned about.
Honestly still more than my city has on some streets
Honestly it probably was or maybe is a question of when until the system that produces bike gutters as "infrastructure" figures out that hey, this works just as well for pedestrians as it does for bike.
That amount is basically zilch, but we got the first idea through and it's widely accepted so why not save some money here, too
I would never live somewhere with no sidewalks.
Most of Britain doesn't have sidewalks. But there's a slight difference in the law... In Britain, pedestrians have priority on ALL roads at ALL times (except for dual carriageways, obv). Pedestrians can even legally cross the road on red light as all traffic control signs and lights are merely suggestions for pedestrians and not a requirement.
if anyone in this community uses a car you are part of the problem
On the other hand, there isn't another option you have in that community.
This community is super walkable and is a good 5 min walk to a big grocery store too
indeed. it's a systemic problem, not an individual problem. we need a network of protected bike lanes, a fuck ton more transit, and zoning reform
Fuck those people for being middle class! /s
Places like this are all many of us can afford. Downtown is either expensive af or shitty. Schools in the burbs tend to be nice enough, there's enough room for kids and friends.
Yeah, there are other options, but most of us can't afford them or don't want to take the immediate lifestyle hit.
we need to densify the suburbs
"downtown is .. shitty" so move to the "shitty" area, help make it better.
unless you mean "I am prepared to live in a car-brained hellscape as long as my neighbours are all white" as most suburbanites have done through history, in which case please move into the sea
I don't care that the GULAG shut down in 1960.
We're opening it up again.
And we're putting the monster that came up with this in there, in time out, so they can think about what they did.
Ask for a bike lane and hopefully you can get multi-use gutters
Fake or not in the US? It definitely looks like standard USA fare, but this is not a pedestrian symbol I've ever seen
Fake, but not terribly far from reality in some areas.
Anywhere upper middle class enough to have lawns like that will have proper sidewalks. But in poor neighborhoods, sometimes local government just doesn't bother spending money to make sidewalks at all. But they also don't bother to paint any lines in the road. It's just road - no sidewalks, no bike lanes, no whatever these are. Just roads.
It’s not fake, and weirdly enough it’s in a rich neighbourhood (or at least u need to be rich to be able to buy a house here)
It is exactly reality on some roads in my area. My town is growing and decently high income for the area, but some of the very first neighborhoods have drainage ditches along the roads rather than proper storm drains. So they are smaller, less expensive houses, but they are in the center of town with good access to everything.
So that leads to lots of sidewalks being built, trying to make things more connected and walkable, but certain roads have this exact “we painted a line and a walk symbol” sidewalk. The walk symbol looks correct though, not the weird one in the op.
It looks jank, but it's clearly a private condo/townhouse development, so it's a private road and not an "official" marker.
Not in the US, but Canada!
This is blasphemy. What should we call walking on the side of the road in some sort of designated zone?
"Asking to get hit by a car"
oil
Awesome, now bikers can roll over stickman nuts every day to work and pretend it's the boss.
It is a joke...
Only in America
And Canada. Half the residential streets in my city don't have sidewalks, the rich folks get walking paths behind their houses so they don't have to mingle with the poors walking out in the street
I saw a similar thing on the Amalfi coast in Italy, though the roads are so damn narrow there idk how else it could possibly work.
You’ve heard of “fuckcars”? Get ready for “fuck_cars”!