It took decades, but San Francisco finally installs nets to stop suicides off Golden Gate Bridge
It took decades, but San Francisco finally installs nets to stop suicides off Golden Gate Bridge
Suicide-prevention barriers at San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge have been completed more than a decade after officials greenlighted a project to install stainless-steel mesh nets on both sides of the 1.7-mile bridge.
Kevin Hines regretted jumping off San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge the moment his hands released the rail and he plunged the equivalent of 25 stories into the Pacific Ocean, breaking his back.
Hines miraculously survived his suicide attempt at age 19 in September 2000 as he struggled with bipolar disorder, one of about 40 people who survived after jumping off the bridge.
Hines, his father, and a group of parents who lost their children to suicide at the bridge relentlessly advocated for a solution for two decades, meeting resistance from people who did not want to alter the iconic landmark with its sweeping views of the Pacific Ocean and San Francisco Bay.
On Wednesday, they finally got their wish when officials announced that crews have installed stainless-steel nets on both sides of the 1.7-mile (2.7-kilometer) bridge.
“Had the net been there, I would have been stopped by the police and gotten the help I needed immediately and never broken my back, never shattered three vertebrae, and never been on this path I was on,” said Hines, now a suicide prevention advocate. “I’m so grateful that a small group of like-minded people never gave up on something so important.”
Nearly 2,000 people have plunged to their deaths since the bridge opened in 1937.
City officials approved the project more than a decade ago, and in 2018 work began on the 20-foot-wide (6-meter-wide) stainless steel mesh nets. But the efforts to complete them were repeatedly delayed until now.
The nets — placed 20 feet (6 meters) down from the bridge’s deck — are not visible from cars crossing the bridge. But pedestrians standing by the rails can see them. They were built with marine-grade stainless steel that can withstand the harsh environment that includes salt water, fog and strong winds that often envelop the striking orange structure at the mouth of the San Francisco Bay.
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So, now you just need to jump from the net after it catches you? That does not seem like much of a barrier.
every barrier helps, most suicide attempts are impulse decisions. forcing people to jump 30 feet into a net before they can jump a lethal distance makes it that much harder to follow through.
100%.
Several people have jumped into them. Some have been rescued from there, but “a handful” had “jumped into the net and then jumped to their death,” Mulligan said.
He declined to say how many. It will take a year or two of data to fully understand the system’s effectiveness, he said.
In the decade beginning in 2011, bridge officials said, there were 335 confirmed suicides, or an average of 33.5 per year. In 2022, as the first nets were being strung, there were 22. Through October this year, as more nets have been added, there were 13.
“If we save 30 lives a year, and not 31, it’s worth it for those 30 people who we saved,” Mulligan said. “And that’s every year. To greatly reduce the number of people dying in the community is a worthy goal. And to achieve that is success.”
But is it saving anyone or are they jumping from somewhere else?
Probably a bit of both. "Successful" suicide and following through with ideation is partly about opportunity. This is why likelihood of suicide is higher in homes with firearms, especially handguns, that are easy to access. Making following through with a suicidal impulse or ideation mitigates the situation for long enough for a good portion of people to shake it and/or get help.
There are still those that will seek out another way but, by mitigating the risk at the Golden Gate, resources that have been needed there can be partially re-allocated to other spaces to catch those that are still slipping through. In a sense, it's a bit like triage and whack-a-mole, where the population at the next target is likely smaller.
Not an impulse decision. It's been what I've wanted for the past couple years. When I tried, my finger wouldn't pull the trigger just like Dolores couldn't do it at first in Westworld.
I think it's more "successful suicide" is generally an impulse decision because that disallows our self-preservation time to kick in.
That said, are you ok? Need someone to talk to? Why have you desired to end your life?
I'm not a qualified mental health professional but would be willing to lend a virtual ear, if you need it, and see if I can help to find resources available to you. I'm not going to be terribly available today but please feel free to DM me.
Self preservation is an impulse.
Wow, some absolute lemon actually downvoted you.
Think of the first fall as a "proof of concept". If after falling ~20 feet to a chain link fence, you still feel like dragging your injured self to the edge of the fence to finish the job, then it's highly unlikely anything will stop you from killing yourself. The fence is kind of a "try before you buy" thing.
Pain is not death. False advertising.
A 20' drop to a steel rope net wouldn't be a soft landing. It's unlikely anyone would be able to, or be interested in, crawling to edge to finish the job.
Oh so you injure the person and laden them with medical debt, America really is great >:)
They injure themselves.
Lol, what is up with this comment chain?
News posts regarding suicides turns depressed lurkers into commenters.
Probably because the "services" that are "designed to help us" usually involve throwing us in a psych ward where you're surrounded by people with serious mental illness to the point you can't sleep a full night because some guy down the hall is screaming at the demons in his head.
So yeah that could be a reason.
They injure themselves? What are you trying to say?
They injure themselves because they are the ones who choose to jump...
So why not just let them choose death?
This is still going to hurt a lot of people that jump, probably still broken backs and the occasional death.
This is one of those "clever" comments that are actually just retarded if you think about it.
Did you read the article? One guy who jumped said he regretted it immediately after falling. This gives people an opportunity to experience that same regret before they try doing it again.
I too would regret suicide when asked especially because if I say 'Im gonna do it again'. - I get to spend 3 more days on a psychiatric hold treated like an animal.
Are you trying to argue that most people who regret suicide attempts are lying about it to avoid treatment?
Yes.
Have you ever been Baker Acted? Met anyone Baker Acted?
It's one of the most dehumanizing things you can do to a person, and then they get a bill for $5,000 for treatment.
There are an absolute fuck ton of people who lie about suicidal ideation because they fear the consequences of being honest. So why do you think after being rescued, and forced into a hold - that they would then be honest?
There are an absolute fuck ton of people who lie about suicidal ideation because they fear the consequences of being honest.
Do you know what proportion of people who regret suicide attempts are lying about it?
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Oh, so you don't know if it's 5% or 50%?
Well, whatever the percentage may be, consider the remaining people who do regret it afterwards and aren't lying about it.
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So, I think this is more of a discussion of whether or not people should have the right to kill themselves rather than should safeguards be put in places where people frequently kill themselves.
Judging by the article, it looks like 40 people have survived jumping off the bridge. One of them, Kevin Hines, broke his spine doing it. He said he regretted it immediately after.
If you think people should be allowed to kill themselves, is giving them the option to jump off an iconic bridge really a good idea? We don't know how many of the people that succeeded regretted doing it, but we can safely assume that number is not 0.
Should those people have an easy and dramatic way to kill themselves, even if they will regret it when there's no going back? I don't think so. I think if people have the right to die, it should be done safely.
You said it yourself. You know people who would kill themselves if they were having a bad day/week. But what if they couldn't do it just then and had to wait a period of time, similar to getting a tattoo while drunk? Maybe the following day/week they will look back and be glad they didn't do it. Maybe not. But I think giving people the option to do it quickly and spectacularly isn't a good idea.
As someone who has worked in medicine, saying you want to die is a surefire way to have all your medical autonomy taken away.
I'm from Melbourne. We had a problem with people jumping from the West Gate bridge and we engineered safety barriers that reduced suicides to zero.
That's right. Zero.
It even reduced the jump rate by 65% at our other bridges. All that, without looking cheap and ugly AF.
All that and The Golden Gate Bridge is still way better looking. It's not even close.
Did it actually reduce suicides though, or just redirect them to other means?
