Privatized Healthcare is so awesome

I still don't get it. Is 100k the bill or his account balance after the bill was payed? And if it is the bill why is it listed under "other adjustments"?

Thanks Martin Shkreli. (Idk how to embed links on this app yet. Kinda embarrassing.)

Edit: let’s see what happens

Thanks again! Wefwef(voyager) doesn’t have that nice little “?”

And as we all know, if it isn't Randian Anarcho-capitalism, then it's Communism, baby!

1000% agree.

Just defeatist humor.

Oooh, yeah, I didn't consider that.

My mom called 911 a few years ago and got taken to a local hospital by the ambulance that showed up. Charged $2500 just for the ambulance ride. The hospital she went to had its own associated ambulance service, not the company that actually took her; my mom ended up getting another bill from this associated ambulance service for $2800 despite the fact that they literally did nothing at all. I almost had to tie my mom up in the basement to prevent her from paying this second bill out of pocket.

Thats my favorite when the due date is always a few days before the letter arrived and its in collections the first time Ive seen it

The UK used to have that. This year, 98-99% of NHS dentists shut down or became private. Conservatives, eh?

The joke is that he's robbing a charity...

That's still better, cause if I needed back surgery I'd just suck it up because I know (see OP photo) is waiting for me if I do go

Unless I have money for good insurance.

Sounds like your coworker is getting healthcare.

In America he'd just suffer for the rest of his life and then off himself when he was too old to handle the pain and still work.

That's what happens when people vote the Conservatives in. They fuck up healthcare funding, and quality goes down the drain. Then the Liberals do fuck all to restore funding and fix it, and over time it just gets worse.

In America, similar wait times for specialists/surgeries are common as well. You just also have to pay for them. My grandma's husband has been waiting years for a hip replacement which keeps getting rescheduled. My husband is scheduled for a colonoscopy 2 months from now. It normally would be free/low cost under insurance, since it is "preventative," but in his case it is a follow up check for a health problem which he has to get done every three years as a man in his 30's, so insurance no longer considers it "preventative." Therefore it will cost about $2500 after insurance (which he also pays for.) It's just ridiculous. Also the $2500 is only a ballpark figure based on the last time he had this done; there is no way to get anyone to tell you exactly how much a procedure will cost. They bill you afterwards, and it will change based on different "variables." It's sometimes difficult to even get them to tell you how much an office visit will cost. They do this so that you cannot shop around. Usually you will get several different bills at different times, for things like labs, fees, etc. Nobody in the process makes it transparent how many bills you will get. Some places are shadier than others, and will add fees that you shouldn't have even incurred, and you then have to call and ask for an itemized list to fight it, which is not normally provided. Most people don't bother to call, and end up owing thousands that go to collections, messing up their credit.

Pretty much, UK here and the NHS is also such a mismanaged joke at this point that private health insurance is looking a lot better for me. I've had a friend of mine whose dad succumbed to cancer because the NHS didn't get to him soon enough before it went terminal and then they proceeded to blame him for not coming sooner. This was before the COVID pandemic but these stories only increased afterwards.

That's why I vote single issue for better representation. Whatever other issues we think are important simply will not happen until FPTP is gone. Without better representation, any progress we make on other issues will simply be undone.

We have a ton of problems. This not being a democracy is the problem.

The company doesn't get to tax write off other peoples donations.

For sure, it's definitely not perfect here, for example I'm on a year long waitlist for surgery for a deviated septum. But from what I've heard they get you in fast if it's life threatening. I think in my case anaphylaxis can be life threatening so they got me in fast even though I was stable. We also have the option of paying for surgeries privately anyway if we don't want to wait.

Interesting, I never realized it was also that slow to get in for the States. To be fair it's not perfect here, surgery wait times can be really bad. I'm on a year long waitlist for deviated septum surgery and my dad waited quite a long time for a hip replacement and he was in a ton of pain everyday. But the thing is we also have the option to pay to get it done privately.

America has proven time and time again that it can't be "fixed", it's rotten from the ground up. The longer it stays around the more people it harms. My entire life has been nothing but financial crisis after financial crisis, war after war, a rapidly deteriorating climate, all in the name of profits, and nobody in power seems to want to do jack shit about it. The only way to fix it is to dismantle the structures of power and replace it with a structure where capital doesn't pull the strings.