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Pejoration

specifically : a historical process by which the semantic and connotative status of a word tends to decline

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Why is it liberal media when wall Street journal is right leaning and Adam Kirsch doesn't have any posted political affiliations?
- Because OP is the worst. Perpetually online and perpetually unpopular
  I saw this photograph of a printed article someone posted earlier. The comments called that person out for cropping out the actual article, which was measured and nuanced, and using the headline as ragebait. Dude here just elevating to the next level of ignorant
  Here's the actual article
  
  Thanks. I hadn’t read the actual article due to paywall.
  
  "I'm mad about an article I didn't read" holy shit beyond parody XD
  
  Like it’s a meme or something.
  
  We need more bad faith "memes" in the world, thanks bud for your help 👍
  
  Hey TB, do you occasionally throw out comments from a [far] right perspective, and perhaps subsequently delete them?
  You certainly ruffle feathers, but it would be unique behavior to be such a prolific left-wing poster yet sometimes randomly do the opposite. Have been enjoying Lemmy and feel it’s worth digging into potential unconventional uses of the platform.
  
  That would be in bad faith and trolling.
- Because TokenBoomer is a rightwing shill, posts nothing but anti-leftwing stuff pretending its all #BothSides.
  
  Yo peep their post history.
  • Pro-Obama voter (plan saved her life)
  • Capitalism lead to modern slavery in chocolate production
  • Police kill 10k family dogs a year
  Pro-Obama. Anti-Capitalism. Anti-Police Brutality.
  Maybe you’re thinking of someone else or I didn’t dig deep enough?
  
  He sanitizes his post history. I've had several interactions with him to the point that I remember his name. Everything in my inbox that has his name says that content can't be found.
  
  Might be wrong to ask for screenshots since folks should be allowed to have some agency there… when they’re not being abusive… What were you discussing?
  Saw this amongst tons of left-wing content and pro-Palestine views, but not sure what the original posts were:
  Will keep an eye out.
  
  Is this gang-stalking? Why are you concerned about a person on the internet?
  
  A 2016 article in The New York Times estimated that more than 10,000 people were participating in online communities "organized around the conviction that its members are victims of a sprawling conspiracy to harass thousands of everyday Americans with mind-control weapons and armies of so-called gang stalkers".
  You got me with the mind control.
  I’ll “keep an eye out” for my own edification… are you of multiple minds? Is there a user with a similar username? You doing a study? Are others upset you’re pro-Palestine? etc., whatever it could be.
  I investigated complaints that I was incredulous of. There are like seven of us on this platform, early days… good to understand how it’s being used. For example I went through some of those defederated instances (cannot recommend).
  And I guess I do care about you based on sticking up for your post history earlier. Your user experience is important.
  
  Thanks for sticking up for me.I just don’t understand the personal attacks and fascination with me. I’m just a guy that posts things I like for content. If people don’t like it, ignore it, downvote it, or report it. But to attack a user and make them out to be something they are not is abusive and immature. I can read the comments, they can ask me questions.
  
  Are you surprised multiple users reported a posting pattern which you’ve never followed? I speculated a bit… what’s your hypothesis?
  
  lies about being a far left wing supporter and deletes far-right view comments and posts so they can claim their post history supports far-left ideas
  people get screenshots of their far right-views before they're deleted
  surprised Pikachu face wHy ArE yOu StAlKiNg Me?!??
  My brother in Christ, if you're far right wing just go chill in the communities that support that viewpoint instead of trying to make the rest of lemmy toxic with this "I'm a super-left socialist and you're bad or wrong if you don't agree with me" thing that fox news believes is how real liberals or socialists act
  
  My brother in Christ
  I’m an Atheist, so…
  
  It's just an expression, one that's often used to mock Christian "politeness" and add emphasis not to actually say that either of us is Christian, so...
  
  What's wrong with people deleting posts that they don't agree with / don't want public?
  
  Or, the mods delete my post/comments. I have deleted posts from a bad information source. If I delete this post right now, what would it say in your inbox?
  
  Everything I've seen from OP leads me to believe they are leftist. Care to cite an example of them shilling for the right?
  
  Centrists have this thing where they accuse anyone to their left of being all the way to their right.
  
  neoliberalism is right wing.
  democrats as not leftists.
  
  You’re at +6/-6 at 3hr in. Wonder if those six downvoters checked for themselves or assumed you were fibbing.
  
  One thing I love about being on this instance is I'm blissfully unaware because downvotes are disabled. This is what I see.
  American Democrats think anyone who criticizes their actions -- such as opening more concentration camps, continuing Trump's wall (yes, that wall), arming genocidal states, and taking power away from the working class -- anyone who criticizes these things MUST be a right-wing shill.
  I'm not joking. That's really what they think. I get it all the time. Hence the downvotes, and hence the unfounded claims about OP.
  
  Ahh…
  So satisfying, on the other hand, to see posts reach +400 without dissent…
  Everyone liked that!
  It also gives a good town hall kind of feel, like I get a sense of how many people are in the room and how many are shaking their heads.
  
  Looks like a typical agitprop/anger amplifier news spammer
  
  That's a lot of labels
  
  Guess it says something about me that I enjoy all their posts lol
  
  Thanks, that means a lot to me. I enjoy your comments.
  
  For me to be rightwing, you would have to be a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist.
- "liberal" is used here as in neoliberal, which is rightwing and capitalist.
  also in the us, democrats lean slightly right of center.
  
  Again, if you want to conserve capitalism, you’re a liberal to Socialists. I understand classical, libertarian, social, neoliberal definitions. The consensus among socialists is that liberalism supports capitalism.
  
  This is close to what I meant.
  
  Again, if you want to conserve capitalism, you’re a liberal to Socialists.
  Sooo what you're saying is that Socialists think conservatives are liberals?
  
  Yes, in the sense they also believe in the neoliberal free-market and private-property capitalism. This also means liberals are still right wing, albeit much further to the left than conservatives.
  Both conservatives and so-called liberals believe in free market capitalism, despite having radically different points of view when it comes to social issues like racism, poverty, guns etc. Socialists agree with left-leaning liberals on the vast majority of social issues btw.
  In a nutshell, if you think really good representatives could fix most of the issues with capitalism as it stands you are a liberal/neoliberal. If you think the current capitalist system can't be fixed by just changing the players without changing the game you are a leftist/socialist. You can go further left than you might be used to, this is where this confusion comes from.
  
  Socialists think conservatives are liberals?
  It's not that we think that... it's just that we don't really see much of a difference.
- From a socialist’s perspective, WSJ is liberal media.
  
  Curious to hear about the mental gymnastics required to make moderate-conservative into liberal media. That's like hearing Trump say CNN is a conservative news org because it's moderate-left
  
  Does the Wall Street Journal want to abolish capitalism? No? Then it’s liberalism.

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