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Librewolf but like... for chromium?

My main browser is Librewolf but I keep a chromium browser just in case. Previously used brave but their flatpak is shit. Ungoogled chromium seems ok but it looks like they don't change much from upstream chromium. Any good chromium browsers which harden their browsers like librewolf does for more privacy?

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  • Thorium is good for privacy and speed but not security, Vivaldi isn’t that private, ungoogled chromium removes everything google. Brave also has packages available for manual installation if you want to give it another try

    • How is Thorium privacy optimized?

      Its version is outdated and it has no focus on Privacy. Also important to see if privacy from Google or from the actual sites you visit i.e. fingerprint prevention.

      Brave is better here

      • The repo shows all the patches. It uses some patches from ungoogled chromium for privacy. It isn’t my recommendation here, I just mentioned it because Brave didn’t work for OP

  • I use Vivaldi, I don't know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc......). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. https://vivaldi.com

    • Vivaldi is not private. A good browser? It surely is. But it's not private.

      It's also proprietary software, which is unacceptable. And yeah, don't repeat to me their marketing techniques. Yes, they release some partial source code. In practice, that's the same as releasing nothing. Just a marketing trick.

    • Yeah, but it is closed sourced.

      • Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even how to do it, at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn't the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the "save" browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)

  • Ironically for Browser you shouldnt use Flatpaks if you trust the browser and you care about security.

    https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html

    What Distro are you on? I use Firefox and Brave, both as RPM now. I actually switched for convenience (keepassxc extension works, plasma extension works etc) but they are actually more secure.

    Native Chromium is poorly way more secure than Firefox. When using the Browsers through Flatpak you need to remove the sandbox, so process isolation and memory stuff is gone, and replace the specific sandbox with bubblewrap.

    Bubblewrap is good, but doesnt support isolated Tabs.

    There are CSS exploits, but to my understanding just using Noscript in "block all by default" mode is best for security AND privacy.

    I would like to like Brave, as it is more secure, but it sucks a lot. Very bloated, tab management worse, missing extensions, damn Chromium webstore and the addon not working so no updates. It is not bad, and I want to write a hardening config soon, to remove and disable all that bloat permanently.

    I would not recommend Librewolf if you are advanced. For one it is a Flatpak, ironically (didnt know this a few weeks ago too) less secure. Also it lacks behind in updates a bit, not much, but this may become a problem.

    https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Arkenfox-softening

    I am working on this tool, should work, that keeps your Arkenfox config up to date and sets a few switches to soften it. So you add that to Firefox and dont need Librewolf anymore.

    On Fedora all you need is libavcodec-freworld from rpmfusion to get everything working. But ublue.it images work best out of the box.

    Edit

    Why are you downvoting this? Doesnt it fit your opinion? I also dont like Chromium, but its more secure. I also didnt know that Flatpak browsers are less secure, but thats a fact.

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