Google Chrome will limit ad blockers starting June 2024

Firefox users who never left: feeling of smugness intensifies

I try not to express or show it though. Only good vibes to bring everyone over to Firefox.
signature look of superiority
I must admit I ditched Firefox for a while when it was considerably slower than Chrome.
feelsbadman.
- Welcome back. <3
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- The last time I used Chrome was a fork called Rockmelt 🥴 then moved to Maxthon, then K-Meleon, and settled on Firefox
- I think I dropped it for a few years starting somewhere around v3.6. Also feelsbad
- I'm ashamed to say I did the same and even converted quite a few non-tech savvy people as well. :(
You're so smug that you love to smell your own farts!
- The trick is to never let your smugness show, then you can be smug about your humility as well. sniff Ahhhh...
Same as reddit to lemmy story for me. Moving mobile browser from kiwi(chrome fork) to Firefox nightly. Already a Firefox user in pc.

Never looked into using firefox but the enshitification has forced me to do so.
- awesome browser imo. and i switched back from opera GX
Which is second to the greatest feature, containers!

Google Chrome can suck a dick.

Damn, that sounds like a killer feature.
- Yeah, but given the name, I bet Edge does it way better ;)
- No, it sucks. Killing is illegal.

If only there was an alternative. Some kinda fox. A fox that was set aflame

Or, let's say, a weasel frozen in ice
- There's a browser called Glacier Ferret? 🤔
- Or - ohh I don't know - some kind of frozen bird?
LoLL
- Laughing out loud longitudinally?
I wish it was for me, but Chrome is necessary for some work I do.
Edit: very weird I get so many downvotes because I need to use a specific browser. Get out more, please.
- Such as?
- Edit: ...
  Yeah, I get "Google bad", and agree, and am 100% on the Firefox train, but downvoting people for not using FF is kinda stinky.
- So use Chrome for that work, and Firefox plus an adblocker for everything else.
- Have you tried to spoof the user agent ?
I've tried switching so many times, most recently yesterday. Every time something just doesnt work or is missing. Yesterday it was stremios web client that refused to show the video that I was simultaneously watching in chrome.
And the fact that Firefox doesnt do tab groups. Such a convenient feature for me, and I couldnt find an extension that did the job. Maybe some of you can help?
- Absolutely agree on the tab groups. I don't get how this is not implemented yet, it's a basic feature with great impact to usability.
- If you refresh it generally works. I've had zero issues with it. Not sure though
- My Firefox does tab groups. Just find an extension

To abuse a saying...

Best time to be on Firefox? Yesterday.

Second best? Today.

Free ad for Firefox. Funny enough can't be blocked by ad blockers.

How long until Google starts paying sites to require chrome? The already tried rolling that concept out a few months ago. They only stopped because of the backlash that was publicly associated with it. They already pay major phone manufacturers to have google as their default or only search option.
So who's going to stop them when we start finding that major popular sites suddenly don't work on firefox?
- Hopefully the EU
- People could start configuring their sites to ban Google Chrome. Give a scary message that says something like "Google Chrome is not allowed on this site for your protection. Google Chrome has severe vulnerabilities that allow for easy infection. An autistic teenager was falsely convicted of selling CP after being infected and now must register for life."
  People would switch away from Google Chrome incredibly fast if website owners started posting that.
- They won't pay them it will be smarter than that. Possibly with proprietary APIs that only work on chrome etc. some sites already don't work on Firefox.
  They'll also further enshitifiy their own services on non chrome browsers.
- If that does happen, can’t we just spoof our user agent to be chrome?
- Then we'll develop add-ons that make the sites pretend Firefox is Chrome. It may not be perfect for a while, but it'll still block ads.
- Sounds like they will create a non-corporate version of the internet by accident. Sound good to me, but I feel like it won't fly in EU to well.
- When sites see the drop off of users.
  Also, Chromite exists.

This, but computer literacy rather than literal literacy

title as it should be: 'google did not die a hero, it instead lived long enough to become the villain.'

such old news though
google became the villain the moment it decided to become publicly traded and chose to be the internet's ad pimp rather than a search engine
most of us are too young to remember but there was a time when you could search for something obscure and actually find it

Laughs in Firefox

Came here to laugh at this.
I just can't get used to Firefox. Last time I tried it (earlier this year), I tried for 2 months. Can't remember all the reasons, but using the adresbar as calculator and see the results without pressing enter is so ingrained in my way of working. Just alt+d, 2+2 shows the result. Give me something better than that and I'll give Firefox an other shot.
Edit: lol at my downvotes. That's what I get for asking a genuine question I guess. People really looove their Firefox here. (me too, but I'm missing some features)
- You can map a keyboard shortcut to the calculator in Windows and have a more robust option no matter what browser you use.

They're going to burn their own browser. If they stop allowing adblockers, a lot of people are just going to change browsers.

good, and good riddance too
I would love to see this happen but I suspect that the number of users who actually install ad blocker extensions and are willing to switch to a new browser once they stop working is fairly insignificant compared to the total numbers of people browsing in Chrome.
- Agree, i have rarely seen people who actually use adblock outside my work. I had to practically tie up my entire family, in-laws included to get ublock installed on all their computers.

Why the hell aren't you on Firefox?

Because bold fonts look weird in Firefox and I have not found a way to change that
- Weird do you have a screen shot you can share? they look fine to me.
  Could it be something withyour windows installation?
- I did have a strange issue with that in the past, but not any more.
  I think it went away after going through the Windows ClearType gubbins again.
- That's new to me. Can you share a screenshot?
- It's been forever since I last looked, but can't you actually change what fonts are used from within Firefox directly?

google chrome will suck my balls

Username checks out
- thanks reddit
Google Chrome has always been near my taint

In other news: Firefox installs are breaking records.

Is that true? I would love for more people to experience Firefox
- I want to switch but I really like Vivaldi even though it's still chromium based...

Hi Firefox. It's been a while..

It shouldn't have been a while
- Eh, when Chrome first came out, Firefox was incredibly clunky and slow in comparison.
  At least it was for me, which was why I switched back then.
  Google's YouTube shenanigans earlier this year got me back to Firefox though, and the more Google does crap like this the more I'm thinking my next phone may take me back to the Appleverse.

Never thought this would be the thing that drove me to degoogled myself, but here we are. I put myself back in an apple silo purely out of spite. Converted all my gmails to other services, like hey.com and tutanota, I PAY a search engine now Kagi.com.

They really burned my soul. Fuck Google.

Why not switch to Linux and FOSS alternatives?
- I've done Linux desktops, and I fight with them too much. Macos is fine by me. Mad respect for Linux users though.
  Non android Linux phones just don't feel ready.
  Comfy leashes I guess.
- I see so many of these comments I can't help but wonder if it's an ad campaign by Kagi.
- I'll take your word for it. I discarded that notion years ago.

As if I'll have money for discretionary purchases anyway. Fucking idiots.

People keep saying (and corpos keep believing) that normies will just "get used to the ads or pay a premium"

But everybody has a breaking point. People who already dislike it have left chrome or are in the rush to leave. Once people reach this point, they will start asking their more tech savvy friends or the Internet for a better way.

I honestly hope Google will not change its trajectory because sooner or later, people will get fed up with their bullshit.

Yes, I like the direction Google is going. More people need to favor non-profit software.
I paid for YouTube premium for quite a while but cancelled because it wouldn't stop recommending the same video I've "not interested" for too many times, and also for pushing far right propaganda and pseudo science when all I watch is gaming related content and some space and engineering content.
Browsing the Internet without add blockers literally breaks the pages and makes one vulnerable to malware.
- Would you like to rewatch this video you already watched? i even removed the fact it has been previously played?
  No? How about now? Or now?
  Sometimes youtube's recommendations are excellent, serving interesting woodworking or tech videos, other time it just shovels me the same drivel over and over.

Everything Google does is evil. How are people still using anything they make—or control the repo for (chromium, android)

At least Android actually gives you freedom. What other alternatives (that actually work) are there? I'd rather have a phone with an OS made by an evil corp that I can actually control, than an OS that doesn't even let me install apps not approved by the manufacturer.
- Using a degoogled LineageOS was great. It’s just that the world around it has changed so much that doing certain things wasn’t really viable any more. Having a phone like that in 2010 would have been awesome, but nowadays it’s really inconvenient. Nowadays, there are some highly unfortunate software needs that don’t quite fit with this philosophy any more.
  I didn’t come up with the idea that my bank requires an app, and that the app absolutely requires an OEM phone with a normal Android and GAPPS. They started requiring that nonsense, which put me in a tight spot. Do I decide to live without money or will I switch to an inferior OS.
  There are also some nice to have apps that came up with similar stupid decisions. Living without them means living in the past, and I would be ok with that too. Getting a minor inconvenience in return of having more privacy is ok with me. Suffering significant inconveniences is not OK. I had to draw the line somewhere, which unfortunately meant switching away from LineageOS.
  I went with iOS, because IMO it’s the least bad option out there. I made some horrible compromises, but at least I can live in 2023 like everyone else. I’m not at all happy with this decision, but at least iOS isn’t half as infuriating as it used to be 10 years ago.
- Well.. for now at least. Who’s to say that won’t be the next thing on their list. They do make a pretty penny on the play store as is, and could improve that if they banned side-loading. And let’s be honest, side-loading is probably a niche thing still.
- And when they allow “sideloading” in the next version, what will your argument be?
They make fantastic services that are far more functional than their oss competitors and it's far far less effort than hosting and dealing with that bullshit.
- Cannot disagree more. I’ve found Google services to be terrible in comparison to their competitors. Don’t get me started on privacy. Ironically, you’re saying they’re better in the same article that says they’re removing adblockers. Which is clearly not better.
That seems slightly hyperbolic
- How so?
It didn't start that way, it wasn't until they had dominance in multiple areas that they started fucking their customers, but the difference here is that it's stupid easy to change to Firefox, Safari, or gasp Edge.
- Edge is chromium. And safari is still apple only. So you're last sentence is wrong, but it is indeed super easy to switch to Firefox, or another non-chromium based browser.
- Money corrupts everything
School/university online classes and messaging/collaboration
Business enterprise messaging/collaboration locked to Google services
Business enterprise sites locked to Chromium based browsers
Government sites locked to Chromium based browsers
- Nothing is locked forever.

When making billions isn't enough there is something wrong with you

Does anyone on lemmy use chrome?

I use it for some tasks at work that don't function correctly on Firefox (for whatever reason our local intranet doesn't play nice with FF) but other than that, I am almost exclusively using Firefox.
Now if someone can come up with a better search engine than Google....
- Why chrome instead of something like chromium?
- That's the only reason why I have a Chrome install, sometimes some pages (it's always store pages) don't work correctly on Firefox, but that's becoming more rare.
Yes
- 🤮
I use Chrome, but Firefox on my android phone. I have had ublock origin installed since the beginning. I only really use it because I manage my YouTube and Google accounts through it, and its handy for sending tabs between my macbook and PC, as well as the various other workflow features I've come to rely on over the last decade or so.
Though I recently heard this was a feature on Firefox now. I used to use Firefox prior to chrome, about 15 or so years ago. I've been intending to switch back recently but haven't got round to it yet.
- sending tabs between my macbook and PC
  Firefox can do that too
Does Vivaldi count? In that case, daily. I did install Firefox recently to try it out again, though.
I use it for a couple things, although my primary browser is Firefox. I use Google Workspace for my business so I have a Chrome profile set up for that. Another business I’m involved with uses M365. It’s easy to set up another Chrome profile for that. I like to keep work separate from my personal stuff and this setup works well for me.
I have Chrome configured as my default browser, armed to the teeth against any possible misbehaviour such as no Javascript. Anything that tries to open a website automatically goes there, and if it wants to work properly has to get onto my whitelist or gets its URL copypasted into Firefox.
I use Firefox as my main browser. It doesn't seem to like not being my default browser and complains regularly about it, but there's no way to explain my setup to it so I have to keep saying "no" to the prompt (to be fair it's only at update time when this happens, and even then it's occasional so no big deal). JS is on by default but I still have uBO, Enhancer for YT, I don't care about cookies, and a few other extensions.

Fire. Fox.

Water. Fox. Try it
- It's in many aspects not better or even inferior to Firefox according to a test I read.
  (German: https://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-Tipps-Software-Duell-Firefox-vs.-Waterfox-welcher-Browser-ist-besser-29608761.html )
- What's the point?

This is the best summary I could come up with:

A year later, Google is restarting the phase-out schedule, and while it has changed some things, Chrome will eventually be home to inferior filtering extensions.

Google's blog post says the plan to kill Manifest V2, the current format for Chrome extensions, is back on starting June 2024.

The company says: "We expect it will take at least a month to observe and stabilize the changes in pre-stable before expanding the rollout to stable channel Chrome, where it will also gradually roll out over time.

On the high end now for me, Slack is drinking 500MB, while a single Google Chat tab, created by this company that is so concerned about performance, is at 1.5GB of memory usage.

Google is adding a completely arbitrary limit on how many "rules" content filtering add-ons can include, which are needed to keep up with the nearly infinite ad-serving sites that are out there (by the way, Ars Technica subscriptions give you an ad-free reading experience and make a great holiday gift!).

Mozilla's blog post on the subject promises "Firefox’s implementation of Manifest V3 ensures users can access the most effective privacy tools available like uBlock Origin and other content-blocking and privacy-preserving extensions."

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Google Chrome will limit your digital rights starting June 2024

Wait, not "starting," my bad.

Will this affect chromium based browsers too

Depends on the browser. Some chromium-based browsers won’t be affected and some will.
Just go to the browser’s help page to find out.

It's roughly a month that I switched to firefox on pc and android and I've never been happier!

Ok, I get all the hate towards google chrome. But pragmatically speaking, will this boost firefox? I feel like even nowadays a ton of people don't even know about adblockers, I'm not sure if they will do the switch to a whole different browser...

DON'T USE ADBLOCKERS!!! Don't know what they are? Good! They're super dangerous and will give you cancer. Don't research adblockers. Whatever you do don't install them. It's impossible to block ads anyway!
- 100% of adblocker users will eventually die. Stay away!
This says otherwise
- Thank you for the info!! Still, given the current status of the web, 42% seems like too little. I guess it's just a matter of waiting for the word to spread even more

Talk about misunderstanding your user base... The backlash will be tremendous. I'm considering banning Chrome at work because of the security risk of letting business people use the Internet without the protection of an ad blocker.

And may they burn

Google rn after reading your comment
- It was super effective!

chrome keeps locking up my win11 today. posting from ff now, again. gg google

Let see what's happening in a year.. for now everything fine when the time comes then people will have to find a solution but anyway who cares what Google say haha..