Copeland, a married father of three, “took his own life” around 5 p.m. Friday, said Lee County Sheriff Jay Jones. His suicide came after police were asked to do a welfare check and began following …
An Alabama preacher and politician killed himself Friday two days after being outed for having a secret life he shared online as a “transgender curvy girl.”
There's probably gonna be a lot of trolls in here, but I have to say this is incredibly sad. I do hope his sermons preached love and acceptance rather than the hate that caused him to take his life.
The guy supported the party that routinely shits on minority groups....but when they turn in him it's sad? He fed the rapid dog that turned and bit him.
Yes, I find it sad when someone is driven to suicide. It's weird, I know.
I feel that a man who dresses up as a woman in their free time did not decide for himself that gay/trans people are evil. This man probably had been lying to himself and others about who he was for decades, living through self-hate and trying to convince himself that he was "normal" and not "one of those fags" and the like.
Now that he's accepted himself and thought that he was safe to express who he was in private online communities (obviously stupid for someone in his position), his whole world is coming down on him. Now everyone knows he's "one of them".
I don't know enough about the guy to comment with certainty on what harm he may have caused as mayor, if he actively made life harder for gay/ trans people then that's really shitty of him. All I'm saying is, things don't happen in a vacuum, and this guy is just as much a victim of hate and bigotry as anyone else who's killed themselves over it.
It's easy for me to judge living in anonymity in a progressive city with a supporting network around me (I'm trans).
More likely she was raised conservative, built a career and family around it, in a small southern town where maintaining that facade is the only way to be accepted, then realized "oh shit I'm trans" and panicked.
At that point, I can totally understand how difficult it would be to escape decades of baggage. Many trans ppl are reluctant to come out for precisely those reasons: career, family, lack of acceptance. The result is turmoil.
I view her more as a lost trans sibling who was born into a cruel world and should be mourned, while not excusing her poor choices of political affiliation. I'm sure it was a daily struggle trying to reconcile what conservatives were saying about people like her, with her own identity.
Not everyone is strong enough to fight this fight.
Seriously. He wouldn't have killed himself if he was surrounded by accepting people.
It's still tragic that someone felt they couldn't be themself, but when you spend your time empowering intolerance and then find yourself a target of that intolerance? I have no tears to spare.
Yeah it's so sad that some giga pervert killed himself after being exposed for writing erotic fanfiction about him murdering and taking over the life of a local business woman and posting his transition fetish memes using real children.
She could've had the life she deserved, she could've still been the preacher, the politician, the parent, the anything. But for shame and fear, we have this. This is what all that "doing it for attention", "pronouns suck" and "groomer pedo" talk amounts too. People so scared to live that we have a dead body instead.
One of Bubba's close friends put out a statement that said "are you happy now?? Bubba didn't break the law or hurt anyone, are you happy now??" Which is true enough, especially if this guy wasn't one of the usual anti trans politicians.
That's tragic, heartbreaking and a good question to ask.
But unfortunately I think the answer is yes. Bigots are happy, any queer death is a reinforcement that their methods work. All are so quick to say "trans people are mentally ill" and the immediately do their best to make that person's life a living hell, which is some twisted cruel logic. They don't want us to exist, they call to exterminate us from public life and they think by making our lives difficult enough we can be shamed in to non-existentance.
We can't let them win. Because victory is literally death, but we will always have to remember those who fell, honor their memory and use their tale as a warning against every piece of shit conservative bathroom bill deadname enforcement and trans healthcare blockade. Because unfortunately, trans people as a whole are very directly under attack. Please vote accordingly.
Unfortunately the "shame" surrounding these things stem from the concept of sin and living as a "sinner" in a "fallen world". I've been shamed countless times because of things the church did not agree with. I don't know if he ever preached any transphobic ideas in his time, but biblical ideologies are rife with gender roles and toxic ideas about women and masculinity. Even if he didn't preach any of that toxic garbage, he must have been struggling a lot with his own identity, even though he said it's only for fun and stress relief (paraphrasing). Small towns don't act gracefully towards people experimenting with their sexualities like this. Can only imagine the rejection he must have experienced having all of this play off on the grand stage of his life in that little town, since literally everyone there knew him.
The username was "transgender curvy girl", I think that speaks volumes for how she wanted to be seen. I would love to ask her how she identified, but since she is gone and all we know is "girl" and "trans" in the space she felt safe, then we should absolutely be following her cue.
So, I have a question. From the Daily Beast article:
Lee County Sheriff Jay Jones said that deputies who tried to pull Copeland over for a welfare check witnessed Copeland step out of his car and shoot himself.
Why are we taking the word of the cops for what happened? We know the right-wingers don't distinguish between cross-dressers and pedophiles. We know that some of them find great satisfaction in abusing, torturing and even killing those that they consider "other". And we know that cops cover for other cops.
Yes, it's entirely possible and plausible that this guy killed himself, but why are we just blindly accepting the cops' version of events here?
What incentive would the police have to murder a guy? What do you think is more likely, that the cops decided to murder some guy for cross dressing, or that this dude is so embarrassed that he got outed as a giga pervert who stalked local women and killed himself because everyone now knows
What a dumb comment. There is no evidence the police shot this guy, and all the evidence to suggest that he killed himself.
Turn it around: He knew the police in his small town, do you think he expected them to make this roadside stop to help a recently outed queer person that did questionable things like fantasizing about killing a woman that everyone in town knows and becoming her by transitioning or uploading memes in a similar context with pictures belonging to real people to a porn website? I mean he knew them personally, I guess he knew their standing on queer, he might have felt threatened for a reason. I am not saying they shot him, just that he might have expected them to be everything but helpful.
That doesn't really count for anything unless people other than cops look at the footage. Not that I'm saying it should be made publicly available but somebody independent should see it.
If it turns out there's no body cam footage that's a problem too but again unless someone outside the police force can see that there's no body cam footage the lack of footage isn't ever going to be made public knowledge.
The police have body cam footage to make sure they're doing their actual jobs and not something else, for the bloody useless if they turn them off or no one ever reviews the footage. They are not primarily there for the police's benefit they're there for ours.
This is a god damn shame. This poor person probably could have had a much happier life if only they knew how. Knew how to escape the life that everyone else expected of them.
Instead it sounds like this poor soul spent their entire life supporting the very cause of their suffering. A lot of people would be happy to point out the irony in the double life he led. But, it’s hard to walk away from a life that’s all you’ve ever known.
Alternative headline: Public official outed as a pervert who was stalking local women and posting pictures of kids to porn websites to further his "transition fetish". Dude is a fucking pervert.
This is what happens when people are forced to repress themselves in order to fit in with what society says is acceptable.
What they want becomes bad but they still fantasize about it. So the fantasy's become twisted and perverse. If this person was allowed to be who they wanted to be they may not have gone down such a dark path. It really just makes me sad to see things like this.
As a trans woman it bums me out that this shit wasn't shared earlier. Regardless of how they identified, if the info in this article is true, they sound like a mega creep with some sort of weird forced feminization fetish. I just hope this stuff I'm reading in this article isn't true because if this gets story gets passed around it's just going make things more difficult. It sucks that the worst of people from a group, which honestly in this case I thing you can make an argument that this person may not even be trans but it's kind of impossible to figure that out now, get hoisted up as a reason whole groups of people dont deserve rights.
All I really want is my communities human rights and any other groups rights not being dictated by what imaginary lines on a map especially in my own country. This person's actions, even if they are tran, shouldn't dictate trans people's right to equality and freedom.
I mean, it's in bad taste to involve real people, especially to post their pictures, in erotic fanfic, but if he never harmed or threatened anyone I don't think that warrants more than taking things down and making and an apology to the people involved.
I certainly wouldn't lump that in with people who actively harm people and maliciously invade people's privacy.
You don't think the woman who was featured in the murder-replacement fanfic wasn't scared when she heard of this? I would say that's pretty awful. She did not consent to play a part in this guys fetish that he shared over the internet publicly.
You are absolutely right...except the article even states that Brittni described herself as a transgender woman. So it seems appropriate for us to take Brittni's word on that.
Copeland told 1819 News, which published the report on his 62nd birthday, that his online alter ego was a harmless “hobby” that did not go beyond his home.
"The only moral crossdressing is my crossdressing"
Some ppl think that just being LGBTQ means you're really a good person inside.
He was perfectly fine to shit on other people but once it came to facing his own scrutiny he took the cowards way out.