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Kidnappers or ICE agents? LAPD grapples with surge in calls from concerned citizens

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1w ago

Kidnappers or ICE agents? LAPD grapples with surge in calls from concerned citizens

www.latimes.com /california/story/2025-07-03/los-angeles-police-immigration-kidnappings

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Cmdr. Lillian Carranza said it was irresponsible for people to describe the arrests as “kidnappings” and encourage people to call 911, saying that there is misinformation circulating online about how and when federal authorities can arrest someone. Authorities don’t need to present a warrant when encountering someone on the street, she said; all they need is probable cause. “If people have concerns about the conduct of federal agents, they need to seek justice in court,” she said. “That is the place to litigate the case. Not the streets.”
A) ICE is moving people beyond their local jurisdiction as quickly as they can, and are deliberately not updating records as to where people have been taken, specifically to avoid being held up by the courts.
B) How do you seek justice in the courts when the officers won't show their faces, won't identify themselves or the agency they work for, and reports they file don't name the officers or departments involved? How do you seek justice in the courts when they're deliberately and repeatedly moving people around specifically to keep them beyond the reach of the courts?
- C) The Big Shithole Bill has put a cap on immigration judges to forcibly create a neverending backlog so good luck handling it in court.
- When someone gets charged for assaulting a federal officer, is the allegedly assaulted officer identified by name or department and badge number?
- Probable cause for ICE means a real and reasonable apprehension that if they don't make the arrest then, the individual is likely to flee were they to seek a judicial order or warrant. This is literally impossible to have in premeditated raids. The very act of planning and premeditation necessarily means they had time to seek a warrant before arrest. This person is full of shit and fully deserves to be "litigated in the streets." May they suffer the lack of peace they deserve.
- You literally can't seek justice in the courts. Trump and co are ignoring due process. This needs to be made louder. If there is no due process there is no justice and no reason to "wait" for a court date that will never come.
- B) How do you seek justice in the courts when the officers won't show their faces, won't identify themselves or the agency they work for, and reports they file don't name the officers or departments involved?
  How would we seek justice against cells of foreign terrorists doing the same thing to people? That's how.
  Courts aside, if the oaths of law enforcement weren't completely thrown in the can at this point, unidentifiable armed masked goons hopping out of unmarked vans should be a "shoot first" scenario for the coppers ~~and concerned citizens.~~ (Ah right. L.A.)
  How long until the next mass shooting or high profile robbery goes down because the perps thrifted some surplus and shouted "We're ICE, step aside."?
Good. Flood law enforcement with these types of calls when you see it happening imo
- To play devils advocate, there are the same number of 911 operators, and if the police are sent, they’ll most likely end up helping the federal employees in anger.
  
  That’s exactly what they do every time they show up when people call them. All you’re doing is calling for backup for them.
Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin called coverage of one reported kidnapping a “hoax” in a post Tuesday on X and said: “ICE does not employ bounty hunters to make arrests.”
I'll take that as official confirmation that ICE is, in fact, employing bounty hunters to make arrests.
- "we have never employed bounty hunters. And you are a horrible human for implying that. We do use armed security contractors, who we pay a stipend for each illegal collected for deportation. Not the same thing at all, which any patriotic American can see. In fact, you are unamerican for even thinking it. Off to the Everglades you go!"
- Welp, they don't employ bounty hunders, they said so themselves. So every masked armed person trying to break in my house is a criminal.
  Second Amendment, Castle Doctrine.
good. inundate them. protect yourself. know your self defense laws. memorize your lawyer’s number
"It's not kidnapping when WE do it...it's...forcibly taking people against their will to a undisclosed secondary location under indefinite false imprisonment. TOTALLY different!"
Abolish the LAPD.
- If they're gonna roll over for armed kidnappers inflicting political violence and dragging away U.S Citizens, yeah, how does that bring any order to chaos? Whom do they "serve and protect"? How's that possibly encourage "public safety"?
  What's the point of the organization besides hoovering up tax dollars to step aside for bullies?
  I realize these are all rhetorical questions lol...
  
  They’re not rolling over. They’re actively supporting ongoing ethnic cleansing and military occupation in LA. They are traitors to their own people.
  If they just stayed home the LA community could solve this themselves.
Jackbooted thugs
yes
¿Por qué no ambos?
Does anyone know what poll is cited and where numbers can be found?

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